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their own ...

And WebOS being linux based will run on their x86 slate ... .  HP 
will then end up with the whole stack

And since Rebol can't get on to the iPad, we should have access to 
HP's slate instead .. so this looks good for us.

Plus, HP's leadership when they purchased Compaq is completely different 
from who runs the company now.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/05/microsoft_ie9_and_canvasn/

IE9 won't support HTML5 canvas.

Interesting and surprising - they wanted to position themselves to 
the top again ...

I believe on of the commenters is right in that MS wants to push 
for Silverlight adoption.

Interesting - I interpreted it as "MS employees are prohibited from 
promising anything they might not deliver, especially after the Longhorn 
debacle". They don't say they aren't doing Canvas, just that they 
can't commit to doing Canvas. Clearly the IE team wants to, but since 
they haven't started writing the code yet they are being smart and 
not making promises. The IE team hasn't been preannouncing features 
until they can *demonstrate* features.

http://video.golem.de/politik-recht/3070/patent-absurdity-dokumentarfilm.html

thanks Reichart - I was feeling a little too relaxed - that got the 
blood boiling

the concept of software patents in the US is, in practice, basically 
the same as nuclear weapons. you have to have them as a "defense" 
against other companies. it's something you keep there, so that other 
companies will think twice before attacking you.

I'm more for the guerillia tactics: Don't care about it, just release 
the apps in a way that it's not trackable who did them and build 
an indirect consulting business around it.

ah, but then it's simpler than that. just let the US lose all tech 
advantage in the software world. when they realize the problem they'll 
get rid of software patents. when products can be sold almost everywhere 
in the world except in the US... people will start to understand 
the issue.

yes, that tactics can work, except it is a problem if the EC succeeds 
to push the software patents down our throats too. Moreover, there 
already are some patents of this kind accepted by EPO - see e.g. 
http://eupat.ffii.org/10/03/bessen/, even though it is "against 
the letter and spirit of the written law"

also: http://www.nosoftwarepatents-award.com/

also http://eupat.ffii.org/

http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mobile-Patent-Lawsuits.png

:-)

*somebody* is making money there...

http://www.osnews.com/story/23275/Adobe_Shows_Off_Flash_10_1_on_Android_Impresses

ouch
limewire all set to go bust!

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/05/major-copyright-defeat-tastes-sour-for-limewire.ars

Google releases preview of their "Native client" SDK - http://blog.chromium.org/2010/05/sneak-peek-at-native-client-sdk.html

Those ppl are just admitting, that the REBOL way was correct from 
the very beginning - to have "rich client", which can do stuff for 
you things directly on user's machine - no server, no html ... how 
funny ....

Right. Just need some seemless means of R3 interacting in the browser...back 
to plug-in?

I think that plugin is going to be needed. NPAPI, npruntime. The 
other way around would be an Extension, webkit rendering into REBOL 
face (gob) :-)

i guess that would be another job for the communtiy to get the plug-in 
on all browsers and platforms

Pekr, you do realize that Google's Native Client is a browser extension, 
right? And it's for use within HTML, which will usually be served 
up from a server? And that it won't run outside of a browser? Google 
has been advocating the rich client for years, but the rich client 
that it has been advocating is the web browser. This is just them 
acknowledging that Javascript sucks for some purposes - they still 
want you to use the rest of the web stuff.

For a more direct avocation of the REBOL approach, look at Silverlight 
or Adobe AIR.

avocation -> advocation

Alan, we need to work more on REBOL's security model first: R3 has 
made a good start in that direction, but there is more to go.

I think that npapi plugin is the fastest way to get into the browser. 
But even then - Google and Apple are creating propaganda, that actually 
"installing" anything into the browser (plugin) is a bad thing :-)

Yes, security :-)

ok, going to watch a hockey championship ....

Google adds JIT to Android 2.2 - http://www.osnews.com/comments/23310

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Ta-wAdvh8


Good way of misunderstanding the needs for motion sensing in phones.

I don't see how improved motion tracking is a bad thing, Henrik - 
yeah, some of the uses mentioned are marginal, but I can see that 
overall, the increased tracking accuracy would be really useful

you can tap anywhere... even on the platic... I found that cool.

imagine playing "air drums" with this

well, maybe with two phones

I would think that you could train it to recognize your gait, so 
that if someone else walks away with your phone it could call home, 
shut down, wipe sensitive data, etc

yeah... cool, until you break your leg and can't call 911   ;-)

Well, I think that what Henrik means is, that he doubts practical 
usability in regards to your cell phone :-) Shaking my HTC TouchPro 
2 with costed me lots of money and weigths 200g, might turn into 
risky business :-)))

any extreme action triggered by motion could be confirmed by having 
to input a password within a certain amount of time

I really like some of the gestures, like holding your phone upside 
down and it closes the curent ap, tilting it to slide the view, etc.

one of the points of this processor is that you don't have to be 
very jerky in performing the motion

yep since itas a gyroscope, the orientation is perfect and accessible 
in real time, much better than an accelerometer.

my "ultimate" wish is to have the touch sensitive areas on the device 
extended to the body - everything should be touch and pressure sensitive

then you could use a combination of motion, pressure, touch points, 
camera input, mic input to invoke all kinds of complex actions with 
combination "hotkeys"

I miss one VERY practical usability. Imagine you have met some accident 
situation, and you call emergency. Now most smart phones have A-GPS 
chip. I would like to just press one button, to send my GPS location 
- so no starting of GPS related app, writing it down, and telling 
it to 911 ....

we're pretty good at motion and position memory