World: r3wp

What is the story behind this?

And Oldes, where is the script?

Hmm... Oldes' way of hiding his source ! ;)

The data are at this moment from Yahoo maps... which story do you 
want? It should be paraglide contest visiualisation.. people jump 
from a hill with GPS and have to fly thru defined points. There is 
no pure rebol version.. I use rebol to parse the GPS data and convert 
them to precompiled SWF data.. also I use Rebol to compile the main 
file. Parts of the Rebol code is in google-maps chat as I was discovering 
the system from Rebol as well. And when you talk about hiding... 
as I'm using some non standard ways how to compile loops in my dialect, 
the best SWF decompiler I now is not able to decompile it correctly:)

Well, that's very interesting... Do you consider that a deficiency 
of the SWF decompiler ?

I don't know, I don't care.

:)  And what is the name of that SWF decompiler ?

Sothink

Ah yes I know that one.

(from Links, OK figured it out.)

bug: stage 4, when the platform rises, the key that should be sitting 
on it remains unmoved (floating in mid-air).

Not quite enough time to read the answers. Maybe clicking should 
shorten it.

(I think it does actually. Quite a nice game, Questionaut)

On stage 6 the first question bubble was undefined for the question 
and all the answers?

After clicking one of the undefined answers it then gave normal question/answers

Very nice Oldes, other than the one undefined question blip it played 
very nicely and looked great.

Sorry for partly missuing this channel, although you might have some 
answer for me. One regulatory company asked us to put online our 
company's annual report. Unfortunately, it is some older years, which 
are missing - 2005/6. And all I have is nicely done annual report 
in Flash. It is an .exe. But - each page is in separte subdir, where 
is plenty of .SWF files. I am looking into method of converting it 
into PDF, or something like that :-)

Our idea was to somehow get it at least printed, scanned, and put 
it into PDF (their requirement).

But maybe I will just click thru the presentation, do screenshots 
manually, put them into word or powerpoint file, and turn it into 
pdf, dunno ...

That's probably the easiest way:) It's hard to say as you can have 
whatever in your files which we don't see... they can be movies for 
example:)

mostly a menu, and texts ... but some texts are on multiple pages, 
while still in one SWF. There is something like 30 pages, so it might 
be easiest to do screenshots ....

I have some questions for our Flash experts:


1. Is it possible to open a plain socket from Flash to a remote host?
2. Can I modify the DOM of th browser from AS?

yes, yes

Cool. So, I could use Flash & AS without any visual flash sutff just 
to open a non-http channel to a server and get answers back into 
the Browser?

yes

but there are some security issues you have to count with

Can you be more specific about the security stuff?

No.. because I don't know, what exactly you want to do and in which 
version of Flash - the security model differs from version to version. 
http://www.google.com/search?q=flash+security+model

It's also important, if you want to access same domain or different 
domain and if you have control over the domain where you want to 
connect to.

As you have to allow the connection from the target domain. The reason 
is to prevent DoS attacks from Flash players.

I just want to open a socket to the same domain the falsh was read 
from.

The different security modles per version might be tricky, but I 
think I "just" need to get it right for versions 7.8.9 to cover most 
users.

What's a good tool to write AS and get a SWF compiled? Is it only 
the Adobe Flash CS3? It costs $700...

I just want to write some stuff code in AS and get it compiled.

If you want to write AS, then you can use:
 http://www.mtasc.org/

And or http://haxe.org/

And or download Flex sdk and look for /lib/asc.jar (AS compiler)

You may guess, that I'm using my own Rebol dialect instead.

For you, the first one... MTASC should be the best choice (to compile 
AS).

If you would like to compile AS3 (for Flash 9 and later) use the 
hexe. It's made by the same author.

Ok, great. Thanks for the tipp.

Is your Rebol dialect able to compile all AS stuff? I'm not interested 
in the graphics stuff but only in using Flash's socket stuff to do 
some networking code.

I would not call it AS compiler. It's not AS what I'm writing in 
my dialect. But I can do whatever you do in AS. The result of my 
compiler is same bytecode as you get compiling AS code. (just don't 
have support for AS3 bytecode as I don't need it much.

I do networking stuff. For example here is my experimental IRC like 
chat http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/chat.html

I took a look at this haxe stuff. Quite impressive. It really looks 
like these guys did a good job to give you a lingua france that can 
emit to the most common client and server technologies in use.

I think I will give it a try. We should add a Rebol emitter, using 
the PHP one as a starting point.

What is purpose of such emiter? Are you trying to suggest, that you 
can write general rebol code without limitations and have it "translated" 
to PHP for e.g.? Is that possible? All that REBOL dynamism, parser, 
etc.? Or are you talking about translating limited functionality, 
e.g. some dialect?

No, you can write Haxe code and create Rebol out of it that can be 
run on a server.

... and the point doing so is? :-)

I use one language as input and can generate the client side (flash, 
js) and server side (php, js, ... and maybe Rebol) out of my project.