World: r3wp

Hi at this moment there are only old not so uptodate pages related 
to the dialect here: http://oldes.multimedia.cz/swf/

I have no other documentation at this moment, but maybe I can sometimes 
unswer some questions if you want here

yes, that's something we now for ages

The dialect is fine, but it's missing an IDE

I don't have so much time to write docs, I rather do something in 
my dialect

REALLY hard to wrap my head around the dialect.. and its VERY verbose.. 
yet using the Flash IDE = simple.

with the same results

this is the latest project: http://www.informacezbrna.cz/hry/dilky/

the probl;em is, that at this moment, it's not easy to give the updated 
dialect itself, as it's quite complex now

It depends on utf-8 and ucs2 projects, zlib if you want to decompile 
some flashes compiled in Macromedia Flash

Nazder Oldesu

But I would like to public it soon somehow

There's been some swf2fla tools out for quite some time now.

I don't need such a tool

I'm using tyhe dialect because I wouyld not be able to do such a 
thing in Macromedia programs

How can that be?  They invented it???

The API, that is.

Rebol is better:)

Terry, I understand Oldes'  POV,  their tools but really hard to 
use. The language as the foundation for GUI programs is beter than 
the actual GUI programs.

...their tools are anyhting but really hard to use....

At least, that's what he's telling me all the time... ;)))

Well, using that same argument, ASSEMBLY is better than Rebol

Sometimes. Thats why Carl works on rebcode :)

rebcode....now, now, NOW...!!!

As far as I remember, file on http://oldes.multimedia.cz/swf/isn't 
actual?!

IMO it needs mainly needs short route to first swf - eg. a) unpack 
make-swf.zip  in catalog ... b) write [code] - save it as first.rswf 
...... - there was always a problem to start again using it :)

What you should know is, that the dialect is almost useless if you 
don't know how Flash works and don't know the ActionScript. The good 
start is to registed and download SWF file format specification from 
this page: http://www.macromedia.com/licensing/developer/

and download ActionScript help file as well

And of course the dialect is not for making animations! Use drawing 
programs to make animations. The dialect is for example to do things 
like to generate games for the tiles game: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/swf-tiles.r
--- I'm sure you would not like to do it in Macromedia authoring 
tool:)

As for now, I now AS quite well :) _IMO_ there is a need to simply 
"jump-in" how-to - examples are good, but (IMO) it lacks _short_ 
 "first swf" guide.

(*I now - I know)

OK so here it is, I'm not able to make more simple:

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_1.0.0.r

make-dir %rswf/

change-dir %rswf/

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-filterbevelg.rswf

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-filterbevel.rswf

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-filtershadow.rswf

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-filterglow.rswf

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-filterblur.rswf

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-blendmode.rswf

list-dir

It all in one version of the dialect (I simplified the ucs-2 code 
to support only cp1250 charset ) The zlib dll support for decompressing 
foreign swf files is missing. Hope everything else is included - 
I used it to compile this page successfully: http://www.nohyvnebi.cz/

how about using 'call and some exe?

I think this is enough, if you don't have Lash player, the exe is 
not enough

i mean for zipping.

for the examples above you must have installed the latest flash player 
plugin (Flash8) These aree first tests of the Flash8 as I downloaded 
it yesterday)

you mean make-projector.r script? It's not included.

I'm not sure if it's legal to distribute the flash player binaries

all i read was "he zlib dll support for decompressing foreign swf 
files is missing" and remembering there are some small zip-exes for 
commandline.

you must have zlib.dll (zlib is not zip)