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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Janeks 8-Jan-2007 [1940x3] | Private groups are visible to all member but accessible only to group members. I would like to hide them from other non group members. |
Sorry, about second! I was wrong - such behaviour are caused by multiple AltMes opened simultaneously for the same world. | |
What about new adding of new features to AltMe? If funding would be available? I am lacking some simple project management possibilities. The simplest thing could be just to add progress bar for tasks. | |
[unknown: 9] 8-Jan-2007 [1943] | Yeah, you want one feature, then somoene else wants another....soon you might as well use Qtask... |
Janeks 9-Jan-2007 [1944] | O'k! I like Rebol so it seems that alternative could be Rebol IOS. There are Project management reblet. |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1945x3] | Reichart - interesting note - "...so you might as well use Qtask". After Carl's announcement of project plans, I once again had that special feeling (maybe an incorrect one?), that IOS had some nice feeling, that attracted me to the system. For me, IOS was an infrastructure, upon what your apps are delivered, docs synced, etc. |
Having kind of mixture of free IOS-like architecture (plus ability to run paid apps there), is imo still UNMATCHED by any web system - so far, web systems are just - wishfull thinking ... | |
... that is like with the amiga - 15 year later I ran Windows, but always when I turned that old A500, with its amazing scrolling etc., it established special feeling of lightweightness, simplicity .... | |
Anton 9-Jan-2007 [1948] | Reichart is about to say "Qtask is not just web" |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1949x3] | it is, unless it establishes the same feeling to you ... |
I think as for me, it is not about Qtask being good, or bad. It is not about Qtask itself, so no need to defend its capabilities. It is about comparison of IOS and any web system I worked with. IOS helped me to establish somehow much more closer relation to the team (kind of psychological factor, and maybe I am alone) | |
So that is why I think product like Altissimo (mixture of IOS/Altme - platform for sw delivery) could still be a winner, even if IOS is dead for few years already ... | |
Rebolek 9-Jan-2007 [1952] | qtask page is loading 16 seconds here (I've got >8MBit/sec line, so this should not be a problem) - so that's the feeling. I like it very much, but REBOL front-end would be better I think. I also understand that web interface is necessity. It's just that 16 seconds... :/ |
Anton 9-Jan-2007 [1953] | A style a day keeps the doctor away. |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1954x2] | Imagine tool like Altme written in AJAX, imo it would still feel awkward ... cool things don't emerge on web - irc, altme, skype, azureus, dc++, etc. |
Anton - can't translate your note about doctor :-) | |
Anton 9-Jan-2007 [1956x2] | I say this to myself occasionally. It means "build more GUI, then things will be easier". |
Qtask with a rebol front-end requires a fairly advanced rebol GUI. | |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1958x2] | yes, I can imagine that, especially for the calendar/time etc. |
The difficult part to decide is - I would prefer View (rich client), but being in Reichart's position, I would go with the web too .... | |
Chris 9-Jan-2007 [1960x2] | Anton, I see managing styles on the canvas as the challenge -- we lack a killer dynamic layout engine. |
And then there's distribution (I'd still advocate my web-launch approach, instead of or complimentary to the plugin) | |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1962] | Chris - what is the main difference between a web-launch and plug-in aproach? Isn't plug-in a better deployment way? |
Chris 9-Jan-2007 [1963] | Web-launch was an idea I'd posted here (another group) about a browser interpreting a Rebol script, then presenting metadata and a large icon to launch the script. I don't think the plugin is better. It's right in some situations, but I'd prefer in most cases to launch my reblet. I may change that opinion if the Rebol plugin were as seamless, if not as ubiquitous, as the Flash plugin. |
Pekr 9-Jan-2007 [1964] | Chris - that is the idea, to be seamless in its deployment and functionality - sadly the reality is different .... |
Chris 9-Jan-2007 [1965] | Exactly -- whereas web-launch is comparitively low-hanging fruit. |
Maxim 10-Jan-2007 [1966x2] | ALTME IS GOING WILD... Its hanging 5 times in an hour... and now the All Groups is red, but all groups are labelled in black... !??! |
hum strangely the apache group suddenly became red and a mesg dated from august came in !? strange. | |
Rebolek 10-Jan-2007 [1968] | something strange happened here and lot of groups updated, it was almost like fresh instalation. |
Pekr 10-Jan-2007 [1969] | nothing special here, I will try to restart altme to see :-) |
Maxim 10-Jan-2007 [1970x2] | it seems to be back to normal... |
I rebooted my machine... a laptop I rarely need to reboot. | |
Henrik 10-Jan-2007 [1972] | no problems here |
PeterWood 10-Jan-2007 [1973] | No such luck for me - still 53 empty conversations on my Windows/XP installation. Though I guess most of them haven't had a post for a long, long time. |
Pekr 10-Jan-2007 [1974] | of course, that is ok ... you have set threshold of messages loaded. If e.g. you set it to 500, then it is 500 posts in total, not per group .... (or so I think :-) |
Sunanda 10-Jan-2007 [1975] | I had some transient wierdness in the Blog Chat group recently......I can only scroll back as far as Thu to my message starting <MVS/TSO? CICS? > |
PeterWood 10-Jan-2007 [1976] | Petr: It says "per chat room" on the settings page so I'm not certain. Mine was set at 1000; I've changed it to 10,000 temporarily to see if that makes any difference. |
Sunanda 10-Jan-2007 [1977] | Conventional wisdom suggests the higher the setting, the more likely you are to experience the "recycle" crash. |
PeterWood 10-Jan-2007 [1978x3] | Isn't the recycle crash a thing of the past? |
Setting to a large number does make switching between groups tediously slow. | |
Actually If my memory serves me correctly the number of posts settings only affects how many are displayed and shouldn't affect synchronisation. | |
Sunanda 10-Jan-2007 [1981] | I'd like to think it is a thing of the past...But as far as I know all we applied was the low-count workaround. |
Louis 14-Jan-2007 [1982] | The main feature that needs to be added to AltME is prevention of a post being lost if the Internet connect happens to be broken. This happens often for me as the phone lines here are very unreliable. The user should be able to work off-line, and his post automatically be sent when he log on. |
sqlab 15-Jan-2007 [1983] | When I want to send a longish post, I write it with my preferred editor and then I just copy it to here.) |
[unknown: 9] 15-Jan-2007 [1984x2] | Please always sumit complaints to Feedback...even if it is the same complain. If you use that chanell, it ensures it is logged, and in the case of repeats, counted. |
(I'm typing on a very small keyboard, excuse those errors). | |
Tomc 16-Jan-2007 [1986] | why is there is a per file size limit for the shareing folder? I could almost understand a 2 gig historical limit -- but this is under 6Meg |
[unknown: 9] 16-Jan-2007 [1987] | That was not my choice... |
Tomc 16-Jan-2007 [1988x2] | ? |
is it settable per world | |
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