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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1319x2] | ok. will try it. |
But how do i uninstall it? It doesn't show up in the add/remove programs, and when I run the downloaded program, it automatically connects to REBOL3? | |
[unknown: 9] 4-Apr-2006 [1321] | Since you are running it in place, I assume you have a copy on your desktop. |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1322] | It's in another folder. Could I just rename/delete the mods & prefs folders? |
Anton 4-Apr-2006 [1323] | Thor, I don't think it's difficult to uninstall. Just look in the filesystem where the altme.exe is, and see if there are any files there. You could just delete those (or move them away somewhere safe). I just looked in the registry and found the -u switch for uninstallation, so altme.exe -u is the command line. |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1324] | OK., will try that. Thanks. :D |
Anton 4-Apr-2006 [1325x4] | (but I don't think that's necessary since you didn't actually fully install it.) |
Yeah, so probably better just to move the altme files that you have somewhere safe, then run altme.exe again and do a full install. | |
(copy altme.exe to a fresh new folder first.) | |
Finding altme in the registry is also quite simple (if it is there). Just run regedit and search for "altme". You quickly find HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SafeWorlds\AltME and within that the home directory where altme was installed. | |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1329] | OK, I'm back :D, but this is the only group that has anything in it. And I just posted to the dot group, in the hopes that it will sync most, if not all the groups... |
Anton 4-Apr-2006 [1330] | So you did a full install ? |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1331] | Yes. |
Anton 4-Apr-2006 [1332] | Anything ? |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1333] | The Puzzles group has resynced. The others not yet. |
Anton 4-Apr-2006 [1334x3] | Hmm, I think this might mean the altme server keeps a record of which groups you have synced and which not. So it probably thinks you have the same installation (coming from the same machine). |
I think you'll see other groups sync when new posts are made to them. | |
Try quit and restart. | |
Thør 4-Apr-2006 [1337x3] | I just Quit and restarted. No new syncs. I noticed that the groups do get synced once a new post is made. That's why all I was posting were dots a few days ago. Will try and copy the downloaded group files to the new AltME location... |
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Reichart, I get disconnected while syncing in the groups where there are a lot of posts (Core & View, to name a couple). Is there a workaround for this? A setting to change, perhaps? | |
james_nak 4-Apr-2006 [1340] | We could really use the "Reset" button right about now. You know the one that clears the new messages as read and therefore not "red." |
BrianH 4-Apr-2006 [1341] | I am a little tired of AltME having no history, aside from that you have accumulated yourself. Even your local history gets pushed off by newer messages. This is supposed to be a community, not Las Vegas. |
[unknown: 9] 4-Apr-2006 [1342] | You have full history, you just have to change how far back you want to see. Or did I not understand your statement? |
BrianH 4-Apr-2006 [1343] | If my history is set to 100 and I change it to 1000, do I get to see the other 900 messages? |
[unknown: 9] 4-Apr-2006 [1344] | Yup |
Geomol 4-Apr-2006 [1345] | Reichart, heavy net load to your server coming up! ;-) (When all user set history to a googolplex. |
[unknown: 9] 4-Apr-2006 [1346] | Actually, that only affects your local computer. |
Geomol 4-Apr-2006 [1347] | ok ... how is that? |
BrianH 4-Apr-2006 [1348] | Well that's better then. What if I sign up to AltME and log onto a group that I never have seen before, does it download the historical messages? What if I haven't signed in for a year and there are 100,000+ messages in the group since then, does AltME download them? |
Geomol 4-Apr-2006 [1349x2] | Don't it have to get the messages from your server? |
Doesn't | |
BrianH 4-Apr-2006 [1351] | I don't have an AltME server, just the client. |
Geomol 4-Apr-2006 [1352] | Do we really have the full sets locally at all time? |
Gabriele 4-Apr-2006 [1353x3] | Altme *always* downloads everything (except for the dot bug, that is) |
the message setting just says how many messages are *displayed* | |
if you don't believe me, try resyncing this world from scratch - it'll take a very long time :) | |
Ingo 4-Apr-2006 [1356] | Interesting ... I had all groups set to read (so not red ;-) Now with Thors dotting some groups turn up with unread messages from 15-oct-2005 (that was in Rebol Enhancements). Makes me wonder how many groups have not been properly synchronized without me noticing. |
Edgar 4-Apr-2006 [1357x2] | Here is a trick in syncing. There is a chat folder that has all the chat messages for each group are kept. Inside that folder is a file called chat55. If you delete a line entry from that file, the group that corresponds with that line will be resycnc like it was never been there before. |
Warning! Do the above trick on your own risk. | |
Sunanda 5-Apr-2006 [1359x2] | Edgar -- I cam think of two drawbacks to that suggested forced resyn method: 1. the files themselves contain the request: " DO NOT MODIFY!" in their header, so perhaps Altme can forsee bad consequences if we do 2. the resync problem appears to mainly affect those on dial up connections. Possibly, that means the issue is related to Altme timing out a slow request. So there is the likelihood that resyncing a large group completely will simply fail midway. |
I did try a variant of your suggestion: I renamed one of the *.set files to *.txt (the request does not say "DO NOT DELETE OR RENAME!") It didn't work. I ended up with an empry group. I supposed I shoudl have dotted it to see if it'd've resynced.....But that was the problem we're trying to solve :-) | |
Graham 5-Apr-2006 [1361] | It's pretty hard to solve a problem when you lack the source. |
Sunanda 5-Apr-2006 [1362] | From Reichart's comments, it sounds hard to solve even with the source :-) |
PeterWood 5-Apr-2006 [1363] | How about a manual re-sync button? |
Geomol 5-Apr-2006 [1364x2] | Under MacOSX, it's a little difficult to have AltME window fill the whole screen, but I found a solution. By "the whole screen", I actually don't mean full-screen, because MacOSX has the screen-bar at top, and below that is the window bar with the 3 buttons. In the altme/prefs/ directory is a file named "window". In there is found 3 parameters offset, size and maxed. To make the AltME window be as large as possible on a 1024x768 resolution, I set these 3 parameters to: offset: 0x44 size: 1024x724 maxed: false |
Only problem is, that the window resizer is covering the scroll-down button in the "New message" area at the bottom. | |
Edgar 5-Apr-2006 [1366x2] | Sunanda, I tried what I just said above and it works. |
But you are probably right that it downloads the whole group so it may still fail before getting all messages in the group. I have broadband so it was not a perfect test. | |
Kaj 5-Apr-2006 [1368] | Sometimes, when working in a world, ones status remains at "logon". This problem seems to occur on Linux but not on Windows |
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