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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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ICarii 14-Jul-2008 [2971] | indeed - so did black and white tv ;) |
Graham 14-Jul-2008 [2972] | But it did take a few years for me to get used to the tiny red indication of a new private message |
ICarii 14-Jul-2008 [2973x5] | to be honest - im still trying to think of a simple, logical replacement for the mixing.. its a tough one |
the challenge with private messages is the thread integrity | |
also - private messages currently do not store a conversation as a unit - but rather as a history - this could be place too look for ideas | |
ive always seen altme as a merge between email and forums - or IRC with history | |
perhaps adding threading to groups / private messages would fulfil the conversational role | |
Pekr 14-Jul-2008 [2978] | World name server outage - now the name server does not resolve my server. How can I easily fix it? Just to reregister? |
Brock 14-Jul-2008 [2979] | Pekr, do you know if it was running under port 5400 or not? Was it your ownly world you had running? If so, you should be able to register the same name and all will be well again. This happens to me many times per year. It's more complicated if you have more servers as you have to re-create them in the order of the port they were using. |
Pekr 14-Jul-2008 [2980x3] | ok, risked it, and re-registered - yes, it was on port 5400. I was worried, as I renamed Master account, but all what was needed was to shut-it down, start altme, start reregistering the world, and I am done .... |
I wonder how Altme.com can loose worldnames? | |
Brock - I wonder if following trick would work - imo Altme checks for already running worlds. So - if you know what port you need, you simply open REBOL console and open particular ports. E.g. you know that you world Test was running at 5402, so you can open tcp://:5400, open tcp://:5401, then there is a chance altme would run it on 5402 as needed ... | |
Brock 14-Jul-2008 [2983x2] | I would think it would work, probably only looking to see if a port is available. |
I believe if you don't pay for your world to be registered to you that it is not in there records and is prone to being lost. I for one choose 'Risk it' if my world name is closed due to inactivity. My problem has been that I have never had this world inactive for more than a couple of days, yet it is inactivated atleast a couple of times a year. | |
Pekr 15-Jul-2008 [2985] | I don't agree. Why should it be lost? Imo there is a bug somewhere. It seems like in-memory-only database or what? I can understand time-out of the world, if not used for some time. But not loosing world name, when the world is apparently running. That simply can't be regarded being a solid service .... |
Brock 15-Jul-2008 [2986] | I don't agree either, just stating a fact. It's happened to me fairly regularly but I'm told there isn't a problem. |
Robert 16-Jul-2008 [2987x2] | Has anybody done some stress test of an AltME server concerning large files? |
I'm interested to see how it scales. | |
Graham 17-Jul-2008 [2989x2] | A big bug with Altme is that someone else has to opt you out of a public channel |
You can't do it yourself. | |
Henrik 17-Jul-2008 [2991x2] | Perhaps it would be simpler to allow channels to be invisible in the sidebar. This could be turned on or off in group information. Then there should be an option in the Divider options (bad name for this option, btw.) to display all or just visible groups. |
Then you wouldn't accidentally opt yourself out of a group and not be able to get back in again. | |
ICarii 17-Jul-2008 [2993] | thankyou for the opt out graham :) |
Sunanda 17-Jul-2008 [2994] | And an opposite problem exists. Anyone new joining has no way to even know what private groups exist, so they have no way of telling if they should request membership. So if a group has been made private simply so a few current members can opt out of it (it has happened) that has the side-effect of hiding the group from all future members. |
Graham 17-Jul-2008 [2995] | ICarii will take this information so he can build a better GUI :) |
Henrik 17-Jul-2008 [2996] | Sunanda, then there should probably be an option to show or hide private groups. I see the advantage for a private world owner to have several private groups he shares with different users. They then can't see eachother's groups, perhaps for business reasons. I used this once to talk to several different customers in the same world (until they appearently grew tired of AltME, sigh). |
Sunanda 17-Jul-2008 [2997] | Henrik -- I agree. The current method is not flexible enough to handle all the common cases. |
Henrik 28-Jul-2008 [2998] | I think I figured out a problem with my registry.set file. It goes read-only sometimes after an AltME crash, which makes AltME impossible to start. I wonder what causes that. (I think there are multiple different causes why AltME suddenly won't start). |
Louis 5-Aug-2008 [2999] | I've been using Emacs for several months now, and like it alot. I wish I would have switched to Emacs years ago. There is one problem, however. Without even thinking about it I hit Cnt-x Cnt-s to save. That deletes the message I've been preparing to send in AltME. But I just realized I can hit Cnt-v and get it all back. |
Henrik 5-Aug-2008 [3000] | Louis, we had a discussion about Ctrl-X clearing the field a while back for VID3. So far I managed to keep it out and I hope it stays out. :-) Not good usability, IMHO. |
Graham 5-Aug-2008 [3001] | Control C & V being so close to each other is also a problem me thinks |
Reichart 5-Aug-2008 [3002x3] | I think the answer to shortcuts is that it should NOT be part of the application, but rather the OS. That the App should offer a "suggestion" list to the App/ |
Thus, you can bring up a standard program on the OS, and simply say AltME/input field "Cut" = Control + X | |
If apps passed this up to OSes, then a person can bring thier shortcuts to any computer, or any computer connected to the web. | |
Oldes 6-Aug-2008 [3005] | There could be also a way how to redefine shortcuts as it's for example in Total Commander. |
Oldes 8-Aug-2008 [3006] | I wonder when the password bug will be fixed in Altme:/ |
Graham 8-Aug-2008 [3007x2] | the default fix is to use the same password for each account. |
This looks like a bug. Select a world which is offline .. eg. r2-beta, and after it can't connect, click on "return to world". It quits instead. | |
[unknown: 5] 11-Aug-2008 [3009] | I need to get ALTME working behind a firewall - what ports do I need to allow traffic thru? |
Sunanda 11-Aug-2008 [3010] | Is the FAQ accurate on the issue of firewalls? http://www.altme.com/faq.html#4750456 |
[unknown: 5] 16-Aug-2008 [3011x2] | Yeah I got it running. Thanks Sunanda. |
Anyone got ATLME so that it is automated to start when Windows starts? | |
Henrik 16-Aug-2008 [3013] | can't that be done by putting it in the Startup folder in the start menu? |
[unknown: 5] 16-Aug-2008 [3014] | Would the credentials have to entered for the world? |
Henrik 16-Aug-2008 [3015] | you can autologin into the last world that was used |
[unknown: 5] 16-Aug-2008 [3016x5] | True - that should work. |
Also, if I get this going maybe I can host worlds for others for less money than ALTME.com charges. | |
Have to look at their licensing to see if that infringes. | |
I would suppose that it would be in the interest of ALTME for others to offer hosting services since the ultimately benefit. | |
Anyone know a way around the file size limitation in ALTME? i tried to upload a large file and got a message that there was a limitation in this version of ALTME. | |
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