[REBOL] Re: Opening a new blog about Rebol?
From: ale870::gmail at: 19-Nov-2007 13:45
Hello Petr,
Alessandro. That is strange logic. OK, let's analyze, why Linux is still
> used on less than what - 6% of desktops, even if hundreds of developers
> work on it and it is fully open sourced?
>
Well, you forgot server-side... futhermore, talking about OS, you don't talk
about technical people, but everybody. My father uses Windows, I use Ubuntu
& Windows ;-)
Why I understand ALL your points, I also ask myself if just stating
> those and complaining takes us anywhere. I am not blind. I am here for
> 10 years and I am known as very vocal and critical member of community.
> But I will not help situation if I just complain, without proposing what
> should be done. So - suggest - what should be done? :-)
>
I fully agree with you. That is the reason I contacted Carl Sassenrath, just
to increase my job quality and Rebol quality/popularity. This was my 2'cents
suggestion, but I got no answer (and now?!)
Leaving for business trip, will not be probably answer for few days. You
> should also know, there is a group of ppl, who are interested to help RT
> with marketing strategy, first goal is to redefine websites ....
>
Again, lack of information... where is this group? Over AltMe? Well, why do
you use Altme, by limiting its usage (proxy problems, username/password to
be requested... etc... ) when you could use a forum? Why not a
public/private forum?
AltMe does not help new users to get information over Rebol (I know this,
because the first time I tried to know Rebol, I could not reach my targets
because I didn't know details about Altme!).
I fully agree with Carl Read. And I'm not so much confident about R3, since
the startup is very similar to the old story: lack of information, planned
releases not respected (alpha in the summer...). I'm here waiting for R3. I
don't know if (and how) I can develop my apps, etc...
R3 status?
Completed at...
New VID (0..100%):
Multithreading:
New datatypes:
New features (and which are):
Rich editor component:
Grid (visual table editor, like "excel") component for VID (required for
DB):
XML support:
SOAP support:
ActiveX support over Windows:
Licensing information (what's free? What is not?):
More......
I think there are several people in this mailing list, and some of them
follow Rebol from a lot of time. Why Don't you start to help them to migrate
their apps? Why don't you supply specifications about R3 (even if they are
not perfect, more information could be useful).
I'm here waiting for a new peace of good, hot bread! :-) (I'm Italian, and
I love hot bread, just cooked!). But I don't know anything about
ingredients, layout, time to complete it (even just to get the taste!)
Go Rebol Go!
On Nov 19, 2007 1:17 PM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz> wrote:
> On Monday, 19-Novenber-2007 at 12:07:52 Petr Krenzelok wrote,
>
> >But I will not help situation if I just complain, without proposing what
> >should be done. So - suggest - what should be done? :-)
>
> 1) If RT's a business then it needs to act like one. Which, for starters,
> means answering every email they receive, ideally within 24 hours.
>
> 1a) If RT doesn't like the hassle of email, they should have an interface
> on their website that replaces email for this job.
>
> 2) They need to spell out on their website every little detail about the
> products they have for sale - not only what they do, but also what they
> don't do. (So RT doesn't get bothered with too many emails asking silly
> questions about them.)
>
> 3) IF RT promises to add feature X then they should deliver on that
> promise - not quitely forget about it and promise feature Y a little while
> later.
>
> 4) R3 should not be released until it's performing very well on Windows,
> OS X and Linux and within their respective web-browsers - and any other OSs
> they plan to support real soon. (And by R3 I mean its version of Core and
> View.)
>
> 5) If RT's a business then it needs to act like one. Oh, already said
> that! It needs rubbing home though. If REBOL's not going to be
> open-source, then for REBOL to succeed RT will have to be business-like. So
> for 6 I propose...
>
> 6) All RT products should be sold from an eBay store. RT should find the
> feedback score they receive very enlightening...
>
> -- Carl Read.
>
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