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[!Syllable] Syllable free operating system family
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Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [364] | So you can host it there? |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [365x2] | yeah, lots of people have links to google docs files |
I mean out in the public | |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [367x2] | I have Google Drive? |
Yeah, but this is a big file, and it's going to be downloaded many times | |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [369] | yeah, google drive is part of google docs - they've sort of unified everything |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [370] | I don't use Google Docs |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [371x4] | I wouldn't worry - never saw them specify limits on Docs fies |
that was free too for individual use | |
you have google docs too, if you had gmail | |
well, you might need to register, actually - but there's no cost | |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [375x2] | The hosting is not the point, though. I can host files, but if it's an official Syllable release, I should have done all the quality control and it should be in all the usual places, such as SourceForge. If it's a contribution, the hosting should also be contributed to make that clear, and I can just link to it |
I'll publish your link one of these days. Can I use your name to credit you? | |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [377x2] | up to you - if you need it to idemnify yourself, go ahead - personally, I don't need to see a credit with the link |
I'm curious - how much traffic do you get from the image downloads? | |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [379x2] | Not for indemnification, just for credit. It's a volunteer project, after all |
Syllable versions have been downloaded several ten thousand times per version. If a version is current for a long time, the VM image could be downloaded twenty thousand times, for example | |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [381] | so the user base is significant? |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [382] | Depends if you consider that significant :-) |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [383x2] | sure, if it's that many individual downloads per version, that's quite a good number |
judging by the forum traffic I would've guessed less | |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [385x3] | It's likely that people actually use or at least try the VM and live CD. The installer is downloaded about equally often as the live CD, and there it's doubtful that many of them lead to used installations |
So it's a bit of a mystery. The forum indeed doesn't reflect it, but there also other reasons for that. It's been hard to register there for years, because we've had to block most common mail domains due to spam | |
It's also likely that Syllable is used most in places where people wouldn't easily come forward on an English forum | |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [388] | I guess that means most users are self sufficient |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [389] | Could be. We think Syllable is still too hard to use, but maybe it isn't :-) |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [390] | majority from Europe? |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [391x2] | No, US, Russia, India, than many European countries. Of course, that way they're not added up, unlike the big continents |
We see people taking two days to download at snail speed via BitTorrent. I imagine they're in Siberia or something. That's why the downloads need to be as small as possible | |
AdrianS 22-Sep-2012 [393x2] | I wonder how most people come to it - if you search for compact/small Linux distributions, does it come up in the results? I would think most people looking to get something lightweight would look at linux, not some completely different OS |
so you should make sure it's visible in those searches | |
Kaj 22-Sep-2012 [395x2] | From many places, I think. We have a decade of publications all over the web |
We get hits from many of the same search phrases as Linux, since most of the same software is in Syllable, and we have an extra Linux system | |
GrahamC 22-Sep-2012 [397] | I wonder if it can be hosted on glacier .. then it would only take a few days to download :) |
DocKimbel 30-Sep-2012 [398] | Got my Syllable 0.6.7 image running in VMware, thanks to AdrianS for making the image available! |
Kaj 19-Dec-2012 [399] | http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-12-19-01-42-Open-sourced-REBOL-3-language-runs-natively-on-Syllable.html |
Bo 19-Dec-2012 [400x2] | Awesome, Kaj! |
Wish I had more time. I'd love to play with Syllable. | |
Kaj 19-Dec-2012 [402x2] | Thanks |
R3 has been included in Syllable Desktop for a year and a half. Syllable Server ships with R2 and a collection of REBOL frameworks | |
Kaj 4-Mar-2013 [404x3] | I added Fork's preliminary R3 port of Red to the build system, with an overlay for Syllable Desktop so it can be experimented with there: |
http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/apps/utils/Builder/packages/Red--current/ | |
http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/apps/utils/Builder/packages/Syllable/Red--current/ | |
GrahamC 28-May-2013 [407] | Ever thought of setting up an AWS ami ? With Cheyenne and QM configured ? |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [408] | Yes, I wanted to do that even before EC2 opened up, to get a business model going. But regardless of their promises, after all these years they still don't support their payment system outside the US |
GrahamC 28-May-2013 [409x2] | All you need is a US bank account |
but that is difficult to obtain if you're not a citizen | |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [411] | And that will get you all the trouble of running a US company |
GrahamC 28-May-2013 [412] | However, you can still upload an AMI ... don't need to be paid for that |
Kaj 28-May-2013 [413:last] | Sure, but I'd have to create it, and I don't have an incentive |
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