World: r3wp

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I think Google use Java to write their JS/HTML

Sorry, but Moore's law doesn't allow REBOL to be used as a generic 
programming language, due to poor performances compared to compiled 
ones (like C or java). You can't even write a decent compression 
lib in REBOL (would be too slow).

which is why rebol is dying.. it's a dinosaur.. 10 years ago it was 
hot, but the ball was dropped, and ruby took it's place.  Stupid 
license / closed source killed it.

The only thing is for a few folk here who prefer to use it for low 
end development / back office.

Google use their GWT library.

*uses

So, just call a compression library from the jvm

write in java and compiles to JS/HTML for client side

that's what I said !

Graham: that was just an example of forbidden usage to *REBOL (as 
long as it is interpreted), performance is still relevant despite 
of current CPU speed.

yes especially on web servers.... the number of users of a site can 
quickly slam moore`s law.

Sure .. I understand that for interpreted languages, there are also 
performance downsides .. but the gain is in the time to deliver product

exactly.

That's why people use interpreted languages/scripting languages .. 
 to speed up the development cycle not for writing time critical 
apps

If I write a WP ... it's not computationally expensive ... vs a statistical 
package

WP: WordProcessor?

yes

REBOL is not even fast enough to write a code editor with syntax 
coloring...a WP is out of reach ;-)

My CRM apps .. the bottleneck is I/O not Rebol

That's a fault with the view implementation

So, what advantages do you see being lost with a port to the JVM 
or .Net ?

compactness :)

actually, REBOL is fast enough... its the R2 integration to AGG is 
which is quite poor.

doesn't sound like a big loss .. most people I see already have .net 
or the jre already installed

but Graham, I'm not against a jvm and .net port, it would be a good 
thing

i know, you're just against being the person to do it: :)

well, as I'm not a jvm nor .net fan, I might not be the right person 
for the job ;-)

I might try with .net thought, the VM is more dynamic languages friendly 
than the jvm.

And there is mono

Isn't mono still lagging behind too much?

in terms of supported features

given the choice, I'd use .net instead of java. the only issue is 
that it relies tooo much on the IDE, which becomes so sluggish on 
complex setups that its not funny.

and neither run on the iPad ...

MS IDEs crash regularly in a typical work session... plus every new 
release, you have to refactor stuff... its just really not nimble.

anyhow... we are pretty OT  ;-)

Is the Da Vinci project still going strong ?? http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/

long time I haven't looked at Da Vinci...

yes it's OT, I'll stop here ;-)

bottom line... only Cheyenne is being maintained

right

I could do some hotfix to CureCode too if required

but no evolution (for now at least)

There was a wish to add a documentation type to curecode

ah, that could be added easily, I'll try to scan the CC channel here 
to see look for easy changes this weekend.

Just to allow users to add examples of how to use functions etc .. 
since many people do not have access to the various "wiki"s

Doc, the websocket problem discussed earlier seems related to this.. 
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28453

things work fine as long as i use a domain name, but as soon as I 
go localhost:81 or 127.0.0.1:81, it goes south.

It also seems ok if using default port 80..

hmm, now its working fine everyway.. feel free to completely ignore 
my previous noise, and I'll just pretend it was all a bad dream

is there a ws:// protocol implementation for R2? How do I connect 
to a server and use websocket without a browser?