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AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6120] | I wonder what global upheaval this will lead to as economies adjust to account for this. Tremendous changes ahead - 2012? :-) |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6121x3] | if, within a decade, it has be proven that the device is as safe as traditional oil furnaces are (we all accept that we have a bomb in our houses... so I don't see this as being any more dangerous). I'd say that we are talking about a shift in the need for huge powerplants, in the long run. if, I can use a kg of nickel for a few hundred bucks, to heat/cool my house and its water for a few years... why would I even consider using electricity/oil/gaz instead? |
if everyone can basically cut his major energy costs by 90%, that means a sizeable reduction in grid energy requirements. | |
and reduced dependency on fossil fuels as well. | |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6124] | my fear is that the "nuclear" aspect of this process, especially at this time, will cause alarmists who don't know the difference between fission and fusion to oppose it |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6125x2] | Isn't there some radiation in all nuclear processes? |
That's why they put lead around it and measure radiation doing presentations. | |
Henrik 26-Apr-2011 [6127] | It seems there is some issue with the amount of led shielding required. Normally, much more would be required than is used in the tests. |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6128x2] | yes, there is radiation, but not to a degree that a small amount of shielding can't be effective at stopping it |
some peope had, rightly, questioned the process being nuclear since there was no significant gamma radiation during the demo. Rossi explained somewhere that getting a radiation signature would give away the secret of the catalyst, so he made sure to cover up as much as possible | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6130] | and I suspect the fact that there are gamma spikes at the start end end of the process are clues as to how it works too ;-) |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6131x2] | a CRT has significant radiation, but it is allowed in the home |
anyhow, compared to pretty much any other energy source, on the merits of overall negative impact, the relatively small amount of gamma radiation, which can be shielded, should not stop the process from being considered | |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6133] | But you'll hear the alarmists. :-) |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6134] | wrt public acceptance isn't going to be hard. the system instantly shuts off if you remove the input current, so that a simple fuse in the system makes it highly safe, in fact much safer than any conventional fossil fuel furnace in case of appliance failure.. my own furnace had a back-fire explosion two months ago... this litterally ripped off and blew the whole piping leading to the chimney right into the opposing wall. |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6135x2] | I guess there is a question of home-brew, poorly shielded impementations that could get out of hand if the intent is to go for the biggest output |
but I don't think it'll be possible to stop that once this is widespread - there will likely be accidents | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6137] | the real danger IMHO will be in the handling of the nickel dust. so I'd bet a normalized "consumer-safe" rod will likely be built at some point. |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6138x2] | people will be doing this in their basement, though - just like people like to tinker with anything, they'll do so here, even if it's not safe |
because as soon as you impose too many middlemen in the process, you're driving up the cost, so people will want to avoid paying anyone they don't absolutely need to | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6140] | I'll just wait for a blueprint in popular mechanics, before I build mine ;-) |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6141] | your neighbour might not want to wait |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6142] | do you know how far will the gamma rays travel in such an installation, assuming its in the basement? |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6143x2] | maybe future homes will require shielding from the start |
no clue, I suppose it comes down to how intense the reaction is | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6145] | I can just see it... re-introduction of led paint to make homes *safer* ;-) |
Henrik 26-Apr-2011 [6146] | the power will really be, when we can print this with a reprap 3D printer :-) |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6147x2] | or this one, pretty impressive home built printer. I'm guessing it has 600-1000- dpi resolution. |
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/04/homebrew-liquid-resin-3d-printer-gets-resolution-boost.html | |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6149x2] | speaking of Popular Mechanics above, they had a pretty negative article when this process was announced |
wow, that's nice output! | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6151x4] | North America is convinced that anything related to "fusion" is fake or star-trek futuresque. the "Pons-Fleischman debacle", was such big news that they completely discredited this research in the public, so anything related to this field has been regarded as skeptic material ever since. talking about functional cold fusion is almost on par with talking about UFOs. |
current common sense in N-A would be: "if its not fire or hot wires... its obviously dangerous or else its fake" | |
wrt printer, yeah, I REALLY hope he gets the plans out, I'll build one for sure. my dad has a commercial machine shop with milling machine and all the rest. | |
I'd have sooo much fun with this stuff. building toys and physics experiments with my kids. | |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6155x2] | it kills me to see the poisonous comments lots of skeptics make about the Rossi process without even having looked at the details. They're forgetting that with the knee-jerk disbelief they're essentially saying that the last 20 years of positive yet inconsistent results have been meaningless (quoting myself from some blog or other) |
can't wait for the plans for the printer - did I already say wow? Wow | |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6157x2] | me too... the "shiny" parts really show how much resolution he has. |
we could build our own legos :-) | |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6159] | :-) Now, that would be fun! |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6160] | maybe even pre-assembled when printing ;-) |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6161] | Toners! |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6162] | you mean color? |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6163x2] | yeah |
He made a flute lately: http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/ | |
Kaj 26-Apr-2011 [6165] | A house plus store just completely exploded here today in the Netherlands due to gas, so I guess Maxim is right that switching bombs would be acceptable |
Maxim 26-Apr-2011 [6166] | btw, the one thing I have not seen answered wrt the Rossi invention is if explosions are radio-actively "dirty". if its easy to make these systems, and then eplode on demand, (by a simple switch it on) it becomes a rather disturbing technology if the explosion itself leaves radio-active elements behind. |
AdrianS 26-Apr-2011 [6167] | the radio-active isotopes produced are very short lived so basically when the reaction stops there is nothing radio-active left |
Geomol 26-Apr-2011 [6168] | And it's very little matter, that's involved in the fusion (if it work). I don't think, it'll be a big problem, unless the process can run uncontrolled somehow, like a fission meltdown. It's hard to judge, because the claimed process isn't very well understood (yet). |
Reichart 26-Apr-2011 [6169] | Yes, I gave "effective" price with tax. Since I don't really care how it breaks down, I care about what comes out of my pocket! |
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