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GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5937] | http://www.ross-gill.com/r/s3.html |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5938x2] | The R2 stuff was never an option for me |
And now the latest version of R3 doesn't run on Syllable, either | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5940x2] | I did the AWS stuff for S3 using SOAP |
R3 | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5942] | Ai, I'm not interested in the SOAP interface, either |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5943] | the limitation with the R2 and R3 interface is that you can't upload large files |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5944] | That's a showstopper, too. I need to upload CD images |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5945] | As I understand it .. it is far better to upload large files to S3 from EC2 |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5946x2] | I would reckon so. But I haven't started with EC2 yet |
As this week's events show, EC2 is not a good thing to become dependent on, either | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5948x3] | I don't believe either Singapore or Japan were affected :) |
Traditionally Rebol file transfers were done by reading the file into memory first which is a pain for large files. | |
Having said that, I think for my R3 ftp implementation, I stream the file off the file system instead of reading into a variable first | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5951] | Sorry, but all this spells immature, and that's no way to build products |
BrianH 23-Apr-2011 [5952x2] | Kaj, he's talking about DVD images when he says "large files". CD images are small enough. |
It's a 32-bit addressing issue. | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5954x2] | Is Kaj talking about AWS ?? |
Actually Brian, if you try to load a 650Mb file into R2 .. you'll crash as far as I recall | |
BrianH 23-Apr-2011 [5956] | Weird. I remember the 32bit addressing issue, but not that. That's annoying. |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5957x4] | I've uploaded thousands of files to S3 over the last year |
but they're only a few Mbs or less in size | |
For larger files I use S3copy ( http://download.cnet.com/S3copy-Amazon-S3-Command-Line-Copy/3000-2242_4-10915715.html ) as it does not block my application if I get something else to do the uploads | |
Requires .Net though | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5961] | If you port that to Syllable Desktop and downsize it one or two orders of magnitudes, I'm willing to have a look :-) |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5962] | After you port .net :) |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5963x2] | I looked into that when it came out, but rejected the idea in later years |
I've even ported part of GNU Portable DotNet | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5965x2] | Is Java on Syllable yet? |
Is there a Syllable AMI ? | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5967x2] | We used to have the Kaffe VM, but nobody did anything with it, so beyond shouting that we must have it, there's no interest |
As I said, I haven't started with EC2 yet. I'd have to port Syllable Server to EC2. Syllable Desktop is impossible to run on EC2, unless you'd run it in a full emulator | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5969x2] | Are people running desktops on Ec2 ? |
And I pre-paid for a 3 year Windows instance a month or so ago :( | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5971x2] | You could run remote desktops on a server, so I guess some people are also doing that on EC2 |
Admins like single points of failure ;-) | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5973x3] | https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=65649&tstart=0 some guy was monitoring hundreds of ECGs on Ec2 :( |
All this happening a few days after that Chinese hacker group boasting that they could bring down any country's infrastructure :( | |
This fiasco has seriously dented the reputation of running cloud based systems. If the largest provider can't get it right, who can? | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5976x3] | Probably the smallest. They carry a way lighter load |
The uptime of our attic cloud compares quite favourably with many providers | |
Although now that I've said that, I'm sure the hot weather will soon blow out a hard disk... | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5979] | You run your server in the attic? the hotest part of the house?? |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5980x2] | Some days of the year, yes |
Then again, we don't have hundreds of heart patients hanging off it | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5982x2] | I think I should setup a secondary fall back server in the Singapore availability zone. Hopefully what happens in the USA does not impact other regions. |
Amazon's talk of region isolation was clearly not true. | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5984] | Houses here don't have cellars anymore, because, as anyone knows, electricity is always there... |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5985] | Don't most Dutch houses have wind mills on them for power? |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5986] | Just a few farms |
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