World: r3wp

I don't know that I would say *after* structured programming. Grouping 
by binding code and data together is not the only way, though it 
can work well. I think we're on the same page. And I agree with Brian.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/4825382/Meteor-explodes-over-North-Island

Missed it!

Max, then there is no problem with teaching C, is there? :-) CMU 
now offers an optional follow-up OOP course where they can teach 
to do that in C. Just like you can teach to avoid goto in C (which 
can still be very useful, including long jumps)

its just plain stupid for a university of this caliber to shrug off 
50 years of CS cause someone high-up doesn't like it.


the grads won't get the training they need for actual real-world 
jobs.

I repeat, they offer an optional OO course

Training for mainstream jobs is the task of technical colleges, not 
of universities

@Graham and vice versa

http://blogs.unity3d.com/2011/02/27/unity-flash-3d-on-the-web/

Max, functional programming IS a substitute for OOP. whether it is 
better or worse is a different matter.

then why would they start adding OO concepts to functional languages?

(ignoring the issue wether that question even makes sense to ask, 
or wether the factual situation implied is indeed the case)


because the concept transcended it's OO roots and turned out to be 
more generally applicable, or even just _also_ applicable in a different 
context?

viz the success of subtyping (in programming languages) and subtype 
polymorphism which arguably rooted in "OO" (simula) have long since 
transcended this paradigm

http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/uslocations/mountain-view/autocompleter/index.html


New job offer at Google (yes, today, I'm posting in the wrong group) 
:-)

It's a bit late for April fool's isn't it ?

Not in Europe or the Americas -- still prime time for announcements 
of R3 and such things,

Yes, it is well past mid-day.

just after 9 AM here, so plenty of opportunities left. :-)

Henrik you really must stop living in the past ;-)

well, spin the Earth in the other direction, then. :-)

Henrik .. it's just a convention!

We could start GMT+13 in Scandinavia .. that would be easier than 
changing the earth's rotation

and NZ would be at GMT

except we have no Zulus here

since we are not rid of things like the daylight savings time yet, 
I'm starting to think it's easier to just change the Earth's rotation 
:-)

This is what the Danes think

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/3100

We have constant daylight savings here. That's why the time in Jakarta 
which is two hours flight to the east of us is one hour behind the 
time here. The sun is at  its highest between 1:00 and 1:30 depending 
on the season.


There was a rumour that the Prime Minister who made the change did 
so because he was fed up with the senior civil servants playing golf 
before going to work.

If the poles reverse, we might as well change the timezones so we 
can still use our compasses to guess the time

too bad that swatch time never caught on. perhaps it was simply introduced 
at the wrong time.

My chat program based on Maarten's rubgy used swatch time

All these webinar invites I get .. no idea what the local time is!

then why would they start adding OO concepts to functional languages?

 - to attract more (ignorant) people to the languages. (unless you 
 consider typeclasses an OO concept...)

indeed, some languages use feature labels, rather than actual design.

We have continuous daylight savings time here in the Netherlands, 
too, since Hitler synced us to Berlin time, instead of GMT

Isn't it the greatest achievement of a politician to be able to change 
time?

And the reason it persisted .. it makes sense??

Pity Hitler didn't enforce swatch time ...

Depends on if you trade more with Germany or with England. I suppose 
that changed through the war

Are wooden shoes more popular in Germany or England?

We only export those to tourists

Quick scan .. nope , nothing made by Philips in my house

But I've got a book signed by Max Euwe ...

Look in your hospital. They've refocused on medical equipment

worth anything?

Probably, if you bring it here :-)

He signed it for me when he toured NZ .. sadly I lost

What did you expect? :-)

To win of course .. it was a simul

So? :-)

Those GMs cheat though ...