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Oldes 3-Dec-2010 [5361] | this is pretty crazy: The latest version of the Linux kernel currently consists of approximately 13 million lines of code http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/12/linux-kernel-13-million-lines-over-5-patches-per-hour.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss |
Pekr 3-Dec-2010 [5362] | Adobe finally comes-up with full video pipeline acceleration for Flash on Linux: http://www.osnews.com/story/24092/Flash_Player_10_2_Beta_Delivers_Hardware_Acceleration_on_Linux |
Kaj 3-Dec-2010 [5363] | Well, currently only on Nvidia |
Geomol 3-Dec-2010 [5364] | 13 million lines of code Linux is on the wrong track! The same can be said about OpenOffice. I downloaded it the other day for my new Mac, and I just checked, it takes up 427 MB of my disc. It simply takes too much time to deal with such software, it being maintenance or just figuring out as a user how it works. |
Kaj 3-Dec-2010 [5365] | That's just the kernel, that's nothing. Try building an operating system around it... |
Henrik 3-Dec-2010 [5366] | Minix 3 is 6000 lines of code. |
Andreas 3-Dec-2010 [5367x2] | Not really :) |
[Minix 3] is extremely small, with the part that runs in kernel mode under 6000 lines of executable code. | |
Henrik 3-Dec-2010 [5369] | well, I assume that is because much more of it exists in user space. |
Andreas 3-Dec-2010 [5370x2] | No doubts that Minux 3 is very small indeed. |
Minix* :) | |
BrianH 3-Dec-2010 [5372x2] | Minix is a micro-kernel. Most of Minix runs in user space. |
Still, I'd be shocked if Minix had nearly as many lines of code as the equivalent in Linux. Most of Linux's code is device drivers, and Minix doesn't have good driver support (though its drivers also run in user space, so they're not counted in those 6000 lines). | |
Andreas 3-Dec-2010 [5374] | And Minix only supports a single platform, at the moment. |
BrianH 3-Dec-2010 [5375] | It supports a whole platform? Cool. I thought it only supported part of a single platform. |
Andreas 3-Dec-2010 [5376] | Linux's arch/ has 23 subdirectories. |
Kaj 3-Dec-2010 [5377x2] | Minix also doesn't have anything beyond the kernel and drivers. As with Linux, you have to put a userland, X11, toolkits and a desktop environment on top of it |
Only then are you ready to add the half a gigabyte of OpenOffice :-) | |
Andreas 3-Dec-2010 [5379] | Heh :) |
Kaj 3-Dec-2010 [5380] | But you'll be able to gloat about running your gigabyte on top of only 6000 lines ;-) |
BrianH 3-Dec-2010 [5381x2] | Linux and Minix tend to run the same amount of code, when you include drivers. Minix just runs a lot of that code in user space instead of kernel space. |
Linux doesn't run all 13mil lines of code on one installation. When you just include the drivers that it is actually using then the code count gets a lot smaller. | |
Geomol 4-Dec-2010 [5383] | I think, it's true that "less is more". |
Henrik 4-Dec-2010 [5384] | Less is more, because less code is more managable. On the upside, Git may never have seen the light of day, if Linux was a nice and small kernel. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2010 [5385] | Rebol Tutorial guy posted interesting link to programming languages future panel. He mentioned Crockford (JSON) mentioned REBOL there. What is really nice is the second guy from right, author of pleny JAVA libraries, describes that the main problem is rishing complexity. He says, that if you add functionality, it will only add-up, but never shrink. And also - that in future there might be a winner, who does it all, not like nowadays, where for web apps you need 3-4 technologies. I think his description fits REBOL ... http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Future-of-Programming-Languages |
Kaj 4-Dec-2010 [5386] | Git is made in the image of Linux. It has the very same problems |
Henrik 4-Dec-2010 [5387] | Kaj, describe, please? I'm making a report on Git and would like more viewpoints. |
Andreas 4-Dec-2010 [5388] | (In "Source Control", please :) |
GrahamC 4-Dec-2010 [5389x2] | I thought that talk was quite amusing. |
Eric Meyer of Microsoft was quoted as saying that Javascript is the new virtual machine of the web, and he wants as Crockford says "defects into introduced into Javascript to make porting of C# to JS easier" which they are strongly resisting. | |
Andreas 4-Dec-2010 [5391] | Right. Enough defects in JS already :) |
Reichart 7-Dec-2010 [5392] | When stadards are used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwsTObuwuvc |
Henrik 7-Dec-2010 [5393] | and people are willing to work very hard. |
GrahamC 7-Dec-2010 [5394] | If only we could build software like this |
Anton 7-Dec-2010 [5395] | Never mind the noise of construction at four o'clock in the morning. |
TomBon 7-Dec-2010 [5396] | lego |
Henrik 8-Dec-2010 [5397] | Not sure if it's new, but I stumbled onto the Chrome Web Store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore |
Kaj 8-Dec-2010 [5398x2] | It was opened yesterday |
I've been preparing to publish Try REBOL in it | |
GrahamC 9-Dec-2010 [5400] | http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/4436338/Google-unwraps-Chrome-PCs-too-late-for-holidays the Chrome store was opened to service the now late Chrome OS PCs |
Pekr 9-Dec-2010 [5401] | For techno-freaks to check-out :-) http://www.osnews.com/story/24115/Verve_A_Type_Safe_Operating_System |
BrianH 9-Dec-2010 [5402] | I'm half-way through the video interview. They use really interesting techniques. I want to look at that source, barring license restrictions. |
Pekr 9-Dec-2010 [5403] | The news was posted here for you, because I knew that you would be the one wanting to see it :-) |
BrianH 9-Dec-2010 [5404x2] | Yeah, I caught it yesterday :) |
The video interview is 74 mins though, and I haven't had 74 uninterrupted mins of a working brain since I started the video. | |
AdrianS 9-Dec-2010 [5406x2] | if you're running Windows, you could use something like MySpeed from Enounce - it can let you play back videos at faster than real-time. I find that for most content 2x is still very understandable. |
Actually, the VLC player (free) lets you do that, but you have to provide it the link to the stream, whereas with MySpeed, embedded videos play at a speed controlled by a little tool tray UI | |
GrahamC 9-Dec-2010 [5408x2] | This cyber war of wikileaks vs the world is interesting ... maybe someone will finally fix the internet to prevent these DOS attacks. |
And curious that Russia is now the last bastion of democracy with Putin asking .. why ina democracy Assange is imprisoned! | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2010 [5410] | Same reason why a democracy elected Hitler, I guess |
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