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BrianH 3-Sep-2008 [3325] | Good night :) |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3326x4] | the comicis great i was the first one to propose Carl to do something like that as presentation for R3 technos |
what i like in the comic is how they present the deferent technologies aspect how they are deal to day what is the problem and then what is the solution apported by the new point of view introdiced into chrome | |
for example java script -> slow because it's part of the asynchronous rendering system and because the javascript systeme reads over and over the same code to execute it | |
solution introduced in chrome javascript runs in a new VM that read the code once transform it into hiden object and then into natural code wich is runed again and again and the VM is a speparated process to focus the resources where they are needed | |
Graham 4-Sep-2008 [3330] | This is annoying. I used the Chrome options to make it the default browser, but when I use 'browse from rebol, it still invokes FF 3. |
shadwolf 4-Sep-2008 [3331x2] | you have restart windows since you made the change ? |
that's stroed into registry | |
Graham 4-Sep-2008 [3333] | oops .. let me try. |
shadwolf 4-Sep-2008 [3334x3] | maybe too they didn't impact on the right registry entry that's a beta version ... that's normal if there is some hum things missing |
for me that work i set chrome as default webbrowser and when i use the WWW key on my keyboard that calls chrome | |
every time you are running another wbebrowser they ask you if you want to change the default to the curent one | |
Graham 4-Sep-2008 [3337] | Nope... still is the default browser but rebol is calling FF |
BrianH 4-Sep-2008 [3338] | Does your start menu have a reference to your default browser? If so and it is Firefox, then Chrome is missing something. |
Graham 4-Sep-2008 [3339] | start menu points to Chrome |
Pekr 4-Sep-2008 [3340] | haha, just read comics - it is kind of cool way to explain some features ... except the fact, how they turned inability to have properly threaded app into advantage talking about processes. While they claim single process (and address space) app will not release memory properly on one hand, on the other hand they mention overhead of data copy needed for their task based aproach, and somehow mysteriously they claim that "overtime it means less memory bloat" |
BrianH 4-Sep-2008 [3341x2] | I'm afraid that their discussion of the effects of memory fragmentation is a real issue in memory management systems without compaction or other techniques to reduce it. You can have a lot of memory that is useless because the free memory is not in large enough chunks. |
This is why I have repeatedly requested details about REBOL's recycle algorithm. With the wrong algorithm, REBOL could be subject to the same problems the comic discusses, like delays and fragmentation. | |
Pekr 4-Sep-2008 [3343] | yes, most probably true. IIRC Ladislav discussed that topic with Carl, but I don't remember the details. GC will be part of closed source part of R3, no? |
BrianH 4-Sep-2008 [3344] | I would assume so, with the exception of the part which requests memory from the OS. It could still be documented though. |
Robert 4-Sep-2008 [3345] | Guys, nice chat but can we move to group performance or something like this? I like TechNews because it's just about that and no noise... |
Henrik 12-Sep-2008 [3346] | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10037202-2.html Nice text input method for touch screens. |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3347x2] | Very nice |
I guess we can do that in Rebol too. | |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3349] | Head over to FreshMeat now if you wanna see Cheyenne, QM and R/S |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3350] | url might be good |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3351x3] | Shall I be nasty and say http://google.com? :-) |
OK, for those who have no idea what FM is: | |
http://freshmeat.net/ | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3354] | I'm vegan |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3355] | The current news is digestable |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3356] | what exactly are you using cheyenne, qm and r/s for ? |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3357x2] | Nothing, that's up to you :-) |
I'm a platform provider | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3359x2] | So, does this mean Orca has been abandoned? |
And you're supplying REBOL instead? | |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3361] | No, why? I'm supplying both |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [3362] | Just wondering since all of the above clearly needs REBOL |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [3363x2] | Actually, the system runs without REBOL, but it doesn't work without ORCA |
I'm also starting to do more ORCA these days | |
Kaj 13-Sep-2008 [3365x2] | It's on OSNews now: |
http://osnews.com/story/20285/Syllable_Server_0_3_Released | |
BrianH 13-Sep-2008 [3367] | I already commented on someone dissing your choice to use REBOL :) |
Kaj 13-Sep-2008 [3368x2] | Yeah, I saw that. :-) Thanks! |
It's ORCA, though, not OSCAR | |
BrianH 13-Sep-2008 [3370] | I'm terrible with names. That is probably why noone has modded my post up. |
Henrik 13-Sep-2008 [3371] | I asked a question about ORCA's status there, to keep the discussion public. |
Kaj 13-Sep-2008 [3372] | Ehm, I never bothered to register with OSNews when they closed up |
Henrik 13-Sep-2008 [3373] | we can let BrianH answer :-) |
BrianH 13-Sep-2008 [3374] | I tried, but I can't edit my comment. I sent feedback. I'm hoping to fix it before someone points out the error in a public forum. |
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