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Henrik - that is imo incorrect analysis of situation .... I am not 
sure it will influence IE at all. IE is used mainly by those, who 
don't care about browsers at all. And as such, those ppl will NOT 
look at Chrome. If they would be interested in alternative browser, 
they would use FF or Opera already for quite some time. My take is 
- if Chrome is going to hurt somebody, then it is definitively FF, 
not that much Opera. And Google is sponsoring FF by some 70mil USD 
anually, by presetting Google as default search engine. If they stop, 
Mozilla foundation can get into trouble a bit ...

for me, it is "just another browser", nothing more. FF is already 
pretty good, established, with tonnes of extension. Those who claim 
FF being "slow", should first define what is slow in browser terms? 
FF is pretty fast..

if a tab locks up in FF, it locks everything up

And if Google tries to push their agenda via Chrome (e.g. off-line 
apps), those new era "quick hacks" should not be accepted, unless 
it is defined in terms of W3C standard ...

we need more innovation in the browser

Graham - it seems to me, that ppl sometimes construct their problems 
to prove somethings which actually is not happening. Did I got some 
crash with FF3? Yes, more than with FF2, especially with stupid quick-time 
format. But - did I got some tab locks? No, never ....

I do frequently

what is the innovation here? It is marketing trick - WebKit is not 
able to be properly threaded, so they might use separate task ... 
and they turn it into advantage on you - "your tabs will never lock" 
:-)

since it is FOSS, perhaps someone can build a Rebol browser from 
it

Pekr, perhaps so, about IE. But I still think it's important that 
we get some shakeups in browser competition. Acid3 brought Safari, 
Opera and FF together for an intense competition on who could support 
it first. IE wasn't even in the race and if IE8 turns out to be the 
disappointment I think it will be, it would get serious problems 
with future Web 2.0 stuff.

I'm unable to test Chrome fully on this slow PC via remote desktop, 
but with many of Google's previous efforts (Google Desktop anyone?), 
it would occur to me that they can use Chrome as a common platform 
for their apps. It is of course far from the elegant solution that 
R3 will bring, but if they are going to keep at it with web 2.0 apps, 
one might want the best way to handle web 2.0.

thats exactly what they want .. a platform to run their apps

what is R3?:-)

Graham - and that is exactly what I don't like - it makes me headaches 
:-) I am two week before I have to decide, which way to go - IBM 
WebSphere portal, or MS SharePoint portal :-) Guys want to go .NET 
way ... and now eventual third player to the game with own platform 
:-)

But there will be more people who will (unknowingly?) be using alternative 
browsers, namely Safari through Macs and the iPhone. Particularly 
iPhone will get a huge amount of marketshare growth, if the numbers 
are right.

what does websphere/shareportal offer?

try killing a chrome.exe task from the windows task manager. :-)

I can see now that this would make Chrome very resilient to crashes.

Why?  Chrome allows you to kill processes

yeah, but it's still neat that you can do it directly from Windows

Graham - portals? Have you seen Drupal, Joomla, etc.? First, we need 
WCMS (web content management system). They work the way, that you 
divide your portal site into zones (mostly columns), and you specify 
portlets to run in certain zones, along with z-ordering, and visibility 
based upon user rights, etc. Then you have workflow tools, DMS, and 
integration tools ... e.g. you can have portlet, which is static 
or dynamic html, bus as well e.g. stub (wrapper) for 3rd systems 
as SAP, etc.

shift-ESC brings up the Chrome task manager - wonder if it's using 
part of the windows task manager.

Graham, I didn't notice it until now. I used the Windows task manager 
before.

pekr the same can be said about rebol why to do another language 
since you have java and Microsoft .NET

anyone that knows a little the web knows htat IE is the worst to 
surf ...  it's really slow really secureless and that's why 40  percent 
of the web user around teh world use FireFox or other webbrowsers.

I am not saying there should be limited amount of browsers available. 
I am just trying to think consequences it will bring to the table 
.... and FF might get hurt ...

Pekr  chrome is full open source .... OPEN WIDE SOURCE i will say 
and as google dev team says "Our purpose it to set a step stop on 
the next generation webbrowser. We have been inspired by the other 
and we wish chrome will inspire others (they are free to take absolutly 
what they want from it)

Before google search engine exists the 2 leading search engine were 
Altavista and yahoo!  altvista disapear and yahoo ! survived offering 
more services than just search engine

Shadwolf - and? FF is open source too - they could as well submit 
some ideas in there. That does not change the fact, that if they 
stop to sponsor Mozilla foundation in the future, FF might get hurt 
...

Pekr no because the goal behind chrome is not to do again another 
mozilla/netscape clone ...  their goal  is to say OK we are in 2008 
 web use is completly different than on 90's we have to propose another 
webbrowser design more efficient to the use of the actual web

Pekr things rise things falls ...  and that's so true that microsoft 
ensure a maximum market part by merging its webbrowser into its OS 
 this way like it or not use it or not 100% of windows/vista based 
PC have it

I don't think it hurts FF at all. In fact the next version of FF 
will have a much faster javascript engine. The competition between 
these browsers is very healthy.

that a way for microsft to say like dude keep fighting in the backstreets 
I'm hella no match for you I'm DA BOSS

I like the guys that came with brand new idea or point of view and 
shoot the ant house to see all the ants running around  ^^

Since i have safari opera and firefox on my computer  i can tell 
you the chrome is the most acurate it starts immediatly  you don't 
have those 20 seconds of loading  and loading  a daily motion page 
takes you 1 seconde

I'm sorry but most of the past years effort have been made on the 
incrresse of the haward side bette  ram better cpu better adsl modem 
better bandwidth but how about the damn software ?

FF or opera inherits most of their engines from  the nestcape design 
elaborated on early 90s when the web was mostly some images and lot 
of text

i remember the first version of FF that was bugging all around flash 
player wasn't existing active X controlwas a mess  plugin system 
was almost inexistant .At least we can say for a first shot chrome 
is really advanced so far i didn't get any problems using it

using crhome i feel like my  computer is totaly new ^^

Shadwolf - another experience, right? What are we talking about here? 
:-) Chrome rendering is based upon WebKit = khtml .... web content 
= standards. The try to provide some supporing features. You talk 
like Google finally will give us, what we need, whereas IE, Mozilla, 
Opera, are all crap :-)

Shadwolf - FF is complete rewrite of Netscape - it inherits nothing 
... maybe just ideas, plus plug-in architecture, which is accpeted 
by others players too, except MS from IE 5.x

Tabs at the top? What a usability nightmare :-(

why? It's actually tabs done right.

it's not imo... maybe I am just used to FF, but when I look for the 
particular tab, I look close to the actual page top of the text ... 
not some distant top bar ...

same objection

Yep.  Spoilt by Camino tabs.

I'm not sure it's such a big deal. It eliminates the regular titlebar. 
I had no problems adapting to it.

Also, I dislike angled tabs.  Wonder how difficult it is to skin?

that's estetical issue ... FF wasn't supporting tabs on its first 
version.