World: r3wp

Do you have a annotation program that can load up a png that one 
can draw on?  the png will be on the server.

no, it should not be difficult, but I don't have a time at all now.

I guess I should use rebol plugin in instead.

Looks really nice, Oldes.

love it! 8-)

Looks great, Oldes!

Oldes, what do you use for the hand painting? Do you use crayons?

AFAIK, Oldes didn't draw it.

From his statement above I read it as he did.

No, there are multiple people involved in the game. They are also 
behind the Samorost 1 and 2 games, which you can play here:

http://amanita-design.net/samorost-1/

Yes. I think there are 4 or 5 people involved. The hand painting 
is currenty by Adolf Lachman http://www.adolflachman.cz/(according 
Jabub's propositions)

will this be multiplatform or windows only? or do you play in the 
browser like samorost? (from the review it seemed like it's a standalone 
game rather than one you can play in the browser)

It's just a Flash so it can (will) be in browser as well, if you 
have a plugin.

It could be probably in Rebol as well. It depends how far is Cyphre 
with the Flash plugin integration into Rebol's face and if Pekr's 
friend will give the rights for Rebol community to use it.

Flash inbedded in a rebol face?

apparently

Cool, then keep us posted about the release, I'll buy it for sure.

Oldes - have you tried doing any application using Adobe AIR? I would 
like to know your eventual experience ...

not yet

I think you need a valid AIR certificate to sign your apps. http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2008/06/18/getting-an-air-certificate/

I'm not a big fun of these wanna be desktop apps. If I look at the 
AIR apps list here:

 http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?from=1&o=desc&event=productHome&s=3&exc=24

.. there is almost nothing I would like to even try. And if you will 
have to pay 300$ per year to sign such an apps... I'm not much interested 
at all.

(stupid Altme URL bug) I wonder if Reichart will ever fix it

And it must be so easy to fix it!

Carl AFAIK writes Altme ... ask him

The URL ovelay code goes back to IOS iirc - it should be open to 
fix...

SafeWorlds writes AltME - they are partnered with RT, but it's not 
the same company.

Carl is maintaining Altme.

It is easier if you just blame me...

of course.. you are the big task master:)

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Not too familiar with flash or the dialect ...is http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/index.php
the only page for info on it?

Could a i use the dialect to build something like this:  http://www.websitetemplates.org/free-templates/Giant-Sunflower.html

I'm not sure if you are not familiar with flash itself. I used it 
to make www.machinarium.net so why not something else.

Yes, that looks quite similar...
Oldes, Is that the only reference page..the demo page? 

Otherwise, can you recommend any good tutorial sites?

Oldes - truly awesome stuff!  In the past I only peeked at REBOL/Flash, 
but diving into it and LOVING the possibilities :)  I'll add a section 
about it to the http://re-bol.comtutorial after more experience. 
 Maybe Machinarium is REBOL's first killer app - certainly seems 
to be getting a lot of exposure.  Best of luck with it!  (just bought 
the games myself and really enjoying it :)

What do you mean "reference page"? I was not making many web pages 
using the dialect as making the game was very time consuming. But 
in the past I used it for example to make this site http://miss3.cz/

I don't think that there is someone else using the dialect so it's 
very unlikely there are any other tutorials. BTW the version used 
on my site is quite old. I would like to update it soon.

haha.. cool how scrollbars are made :) .. Oldes this flash dialect 
of you is sort of a mistery to all of us I think :) ..is it like 
open source thing?

Nick that would be great (adding a section to your tutorial). You 
have a way of explaining stuff. I look forward to it.

Oldes, others _will_ use it if it's well documented, especially when 
they know that Machinarium was created with it.  If you have a chance 
to upload the newest version of REBOL/flash, you'll have my undying 
gratitude :)  ... I'm reading and re-reading the examples now and 
organizing how to document important parts of the dialect, and basics 
of using it.  I think you could attract some of the flash development 
community if documentation is presented and promoted the right way 
- it's such a light and useful tool to create swf.  And with Machinarium 
you have an extraordinary example of a beautiful working application...

My neighbour here in Ljubljana hackerspace bought Machinarium and 
showed it to me yesterda, very very very awesome!!! He also wrote 
this blogpost today .. 

http://swizec.com/blog/the-greatest-casual-game-ever-devised/swizec/1058

I have demoed Machinarium to couple of my friends who are not active 
gamers and they all seem to like it a lot. I liked this game so much 
I purchased it for myself as a X.mas present.

Janko, the Rebol/Flash dialect is basically compiler of flash(swf) 
files which uses own specific language - dialect for that.

I think programmers who are working(painfully) with Flash IDE every 
day would love it. I don't understand why the dialect is not well 
known in the Flash comunity. Maybe because you need to learn from 
the examples on the website and also get Rebol in your mind a bit 
;)

The REBOL/Flash dialect should have been mentionned in Machinarium's 
credits.

Btw, I will buy a Machinarium full version, I've enjoyed playing 
the demo. That would be the first game I'll buy since David Braben's 
"Elite" release on Amiga. ;-)

Hmm.. I think I have Elite for C64

Correction: it was "Frontier: Elite II"

I've also thought about buing the game, especially to play with my 
kids :-)

Oldes, did http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/index.phpget attacked?

Probably just another PHP vulnerability