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Will 18-Nov-2007 [379] | Your dialect is something that could drive lots of flash guys to look more in Rebol ! |
Oldes 18-Nov-2007 [380] | Look... I'm not making a factory standard like an Adobe... I'm not factory.. |
Will 18-Nov-2007 [381] | Yea, I've opened many time the flash IDE but it never lasted more then 5 minutes.. |
Oldes 18-Nov-2007 [382] | if you are like terry.. you sould use flex. You have to know actionscript anyway, if you want to use my dialect. The function's names has to be same |
Will 18-Nov-2007 [383x2] | what you mean like Terry? |
I have big hopes in R3, and not really looking into Flex, I'm rebol afficionado! althought some points Tarry made are true, like in php you can find about everything ready, but doing it in rebol is more about learning | |
Oldes 18-Nov-2007 [385x4] | Terry was arguing here, that he can make guis with flex in a few minutes:) |
But it's all about learning... at least for me | |
I like to learn myself | |
I don't want just to take something I don't understand how it works | |
Will 18-Nov-2007 [389] | I have this idea that the second more installed browser plugin is quicktime, it once had wired actions, etc, but then apple went ipod adn moveis.. There was a company totallyhip.com wich did LiveStage to build wired movies, they are now about dead, quicktime still has a whole lot od codecs and I dream that RT will work with apple , embed rebol in quicktime plugin or as a codec so that we can program stuff in rebol with aac and mpeg4... 8) |
Oldes 18-Nov-2007 [390] | And wouldn't it be better to have quicktime and flash embedded in Rebol? |
Will 18-Nov-2007 [391x3] | and with simple version upgrade, million of people get rebol power ready to use in a way that will make them Huuu..WOAA |
yes that would be better, but that idea is just because it would be easier to have it installed on millions computers.. having people install rebol web plugin will take time to spread | |
quicktime is already everywhere , it only lacks a real scripting language, where rebol would fit very very well ! | |
Oldes 18-Nov-2007 [394] | I don't need millions people to use something what I do... and to be honest.. I don't prefere quicktime.. but I would like to look how the format differs from avi one day |
Will 18-Nov-2007 [395] | I was speaking more about spreading rebol not really relate to your dialect, AVI is just a codec, quicktime support about 200 codecs, even flash (but version 4 only, and they disabled it as default with latest upgrade for security reasons..many quictime content broke..) and it as support for wired scripting, only that is hasnt evolved int the last 5 years.. too bad |
Oldes 20-Dec-2007 [396x3] | I did some compilers speed optimizations = http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r |
and here is a simple site I did with this version of Rebol/Flash dialect http://dwg.cz/atelier/ | |
the swf file has 60kB (including all text data and 2 fonts) Images are loaded as external files. | |
Graham 20-Dec-2007 [399] | What are your rates for doing websites oldes ? :) |
Will 20-Dec-2007 [400] | yea, I'd like to know as well.. ;-) |
Brock 21-Dec-2007 [401] | Oldes, I;d like to see what the REbol file looks like that generates the site... do you have some examples you can share? |
Oldes 21-Dec-2007 [402x3] | They looks like the files in examples... here is for example the clip loader: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/gui/GUI_ClipHandler.rswf |
I also use script which goes thru dir sctructure and prepares XML file with image sizes which is used inside the swf | |
It's the script from Core chat here | |
james_nak 21-Dec-2007 [405] | Excellent as usual. |
Oldes 23-Dec-2007 [406] | ImageStream in a real life usage: http://www.bezruci.cz/pf2008 |
GiuseppeC 24-Dec-2007 [407] | ? |
Oldes 24-Dec-2007 [408x2] | http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/mx-imagestream |
(it a memory game - pexeso) any other question? :) | |
Oldes 4-Jan-2008 [410x4] | Rebol/Flash dialect updated http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r Added support for loading ICO, BMP and PNG images without need to use Rebol/View. It's possible that some types of these images will not be loaded correctly yet, as I didn't tested all possibilities. The 'KEY word is not supported now with ImageCore loader, use PNG instead if you want transparent images. Also all images are stored as DefineBitsLossless2 type (with alpha). Also it's written just in Rebol - I would like to optimize it in RebCode in the future. |
The ICO support is just an experimental as I need to use it for something specific. | |
(JPG support is still available - this was working in Core before as JPG are different type of images in SWF structure where is not required almost any change for embedding them) | |
For GIF files the compiler tries to use build in Rebol load function which will fail in Core - I would need LZW decompressor first to support it. | |
Oldes 21-Feb-2008 [414] | It's still far to be finished, but I cannot help myself - paragliding contest visualisation made in Rebol/Flash dialect - http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/xsider/ |
Graham 21-Feb-2008 [415] | very impressive oldes |
Geomol 21-Feb-2008 [416] | Yes, and funny! :-) Is it real data being used? |
Oldes 22-Feb-2008 [417] | of course real data:) |
Pekr 22-Feb-2008 [418] | Oldes - fantastic! |
Anton 22-Feb-2008 [419x3] | Very nice Oldes ! Excellent work. |
(I just looked at xsider, not the other ones yet.) | |
Is there a pure rebol version of xsider ? | |
james_nak 22-Feb-2008 [422] | Very cool. |
Reichart 23-Feb-2008 [423x2] | Where is the map data coming from? |
What is the story behind this? | |
Reichart 24-Feb-2008 [425] | And Oldes, where is the script? |
Anton 25-Feb-2008 [426] | Hmm... Oldes' way of hiding his source ! ;) |
Oldes 25-Feb-2008 [427] | The data are at this moment from Yahoo maps... which story do you want? It should be paraglide contest visiualisation.. people jump from a hill with GPS and have to fly thru defined points. There is no pure rebol version.. I use rebol to parse the GPS data and convert them to precompiled SWF data.. also I use Rebol to compile the main file. Parts of the Rebol code is in google-maps chat as I was discovering the system from Rebol as well. And when you talk about hiding... as I'm using some non standard ways how to compile loops in my dialect, the best SWF decompiler I now is not able to decompile it correctly:) |
Anton 25-Feb-2008 [428] | Well, that's very interesting... Do you consider that a deficiency of the SWF decompiler ? |
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