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Graham
22-Nov-2008
[934x3]
we should move the wikibook to the new wiki once it is up and running.
Richard has offered us a PC to host the web BBS and new wiki
we should be able to use wiki tools to download it and I can then 
upload to the new wiki
Alexandr
22-Nov-2008
[937]
Sunanda, thanks for your help. Anyway, I tried all my fonts, which 
do have russian (cyrillic) letters, but still had no luck. Seems 
I really have to wait for Rebol3 as nobody knows how to solve this.
Sunanda
23-Nov-2008
[938]
Sorry to hear that. Have you tried any of the available UNICODE-enabled 
R3 alphas to see if they work with Cyrillic?
Vladimir
23-Nov-2008
[939]
This is of great importance for me to.... There are three alphabets 
in use in my county... Whitout these characters I can not enter any 
name properly into database and can not print forms required by law... 
There are ways around it offcourse.. but I want r3 so badly :)
Alexandr
23-Nov-2008
[940]
Sunanda, I don't have Windows since this summer any more, and the 
only alpha I have found (http://www.rebol.net/builds/rebol3/alpha/rebol29904031.zip) 
works only under Win. I guess there was no alpha release for Linux 
yet...
Henrik
23-Nov-2008
[941]
Not yet a linux release, as cursor management under the linux console 
would no longer be handled by the GNU tools for that. I don't remember 
the details, but it is seriously not fun to use, when you can only 
enter text and not use the cursor at all..
Alexandr
23-Nov-2008
[942x2]
Vladimir, I can understand you very well... English speaking people 
(and living in english-speaking countries) don't have such a problem, 
but when you have to deal with one or more non english languages, 
that becomes a trouble. I was so inspired by rebol's philosophy and 
it's advantages that I spent over 2 weeks trying to make it work 
with Cyrillic, but no way - the only way now is to make images with 
Russian text and use them as buttons. You would agree this hardly 
can be a workaround... And as to Rebol3 - it seems to me that we 
all so much awaiting for it that by Magnus law it would not be realeased 
quite soon :-)
Henrik, did you mean using rebol3 in WINE under Linux?
Henrik
23-Nov-2008
[944]
alexandr, that will work. I talked about an early Linux port, but 
it is not fun to use.
Alexandr
23-Nov-2008
[945x2]
If I only was a bit sure that there would be enoough compatibility 
between R2 and R3, I probably would begin to learn rebol and write 
programs I need without Russian living this part for a future, when 
R3 would be released. But who can point me how much of compatibility 
would it be and in which places of rebol? Maybe syntax would change 
so much that one would have to rewrite scripts from the beginning? 
Who knows..
Henrik, can you tell me where is it possible to find that Linux port? 
I'd like to test it with all it's flaws but as I said I couldn't 
find anything from alpha for Linux at all
Henrik
23-Nov-2008
[947x2]
syntax won't change much. it's the underlying conventions, dlalects 
and UI that will change, so if you learn R2, it will be easy to move 
to R3.
Alexandr, the port was internal. Not released.
Alexandr
23-Nov-2008
[949x3]
Thanks for the tip, probably I really would  begin with that without 
unicode in hope I would add this possibility later!
Ah, internal...I see.
As for now I have to write my very simple program in gtkdialog and 
I must say it doesn't inspire me at all after reading and trying 
many rebol scripts and wondering how simple can simple things be 
:-)
Henrik
23-Nov-2008
[952]
very understandable. :-)
Sunanda
24-Nov-2008
[953]
<If I only was a bit sure that there would be enoough compatibility 
between R2 and R3...>

They will be highly compatible, but with enough changes to break 
many scripts. As far as I know there is no definitive list of confirmed 
incompatibilities on the R3 wiki. A quick scan of the R3 blog offers 
some clues:
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?index=0
Vladimir
24-Nov-2008
[954]
Does anybody have any experience with Lucene full text search library?

Its written in java... one of my friends who mostly uses python says 
its exellent and very fast.

Is there anything like that in rebol besides simple rebol functions 
like find, select ?
PeterWood
24-Nov-2008
[955]
You could take a look at Sunanda's skimp - http://www.rebol.org/documentation.r?script=skimp.r
Gregg
24-Nov-2008
[956]
I think Maarten looked at Lucene. He can confirm when he checks in 
here. He's done some other indexing R&D as well, so will have good 
input.
GiuseppeC
15-Dec-2008
[957]
Not sure it is the right group.

Could someone please remind me how to use read/custom to read and 
post cookies ?
Vladimir
29-Dec-2008
[958]
Is there a way to scan a document from Rebol script, and to use it 
in program as file or image ?
To start scaning using available Twain or Wia drivers?
Or external exe or dll ?
Graham
29-Dec-2008
[959x2]
Yes
see the scanning routines I wrote on rebol.org
Sunanda
29-Dec-2008
[961]
Graham is being too modest to provide an exact link :-)
http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=eztwain.r
Graham
29-Dec-2008
[962]
too lazy is the reality
amacleod
29-Dec-2008
[963]
Graham, Does that only work woth the commercial version of EZTwain? 
Or does Classic work too?
Graham
29-Dec-2008
[964x2]
no idea ... that was in 2006!
I think NickA has also posted some scanning stuff on the mailing 
list, or on his website.
amacleod
29-Dec-2008
[966]
Thanks
Vladimir
30-Dec-2008
[967]
Thanks.... I'm also lazy to search rebol.org.... its easyer to ask 
here :)
NickA
30-Dec-2008
[968]
My code was to capture from video source, but may provide some useful 
clues:   http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=web-cam.rThe 
same script with constants most clearly defined, is here:  http://guitarz.org/files/capture.r
Janko
2-Jan-2009
[969]
I wondered this for long time, and never found it... does rebol have 
a native equivalent of HL functions like map, reduce, filter ?
Steeve
2-Jan-2009
[970]
HL ?
Janko
2-Jan-2009
[971x3]
higher level ... ok sorry Higher Order Functions
functions that take functions as parameters, map, reduce, filter 
are basic functions for functional programming
I know I can write them on my own but because rebol is more of a 
functional language with all kinds of power features I am not sure 
if something like this isn't already in
Steeve
2-Jan-2009
[974x2]
huuu... don't see you point, as far i know, they are easy to simulate 
with some rebol instructions.
with which language are you comparing ?
Janko
2-Jan-2009
[976]
no specific language I will write map in rebol and show you , it 
should be a simple function
Steeve
2-Jan-2009
[977x2]
but what is your reference ? map can have many implementations depending 
the language...
*many specifications
BrianH
2-Jan-2009
[979]
REBOL doesn't include the standard higher-order functions, though 
they can be written in REBOL. Since there is no way to practically 
specify literal function values that work properly, the standard 
in REBOL is to use blocks for control function parameters rather 
than functions. Even though we are making the series mezzanines more 
friendly to function values, even in R3 the standard HOFs are being 
translated to REBOL style before inclusion.
Steeve
2-Jan-2009
[980]
hmm...
BrianH
2-Jan-2009
[981x2]
So R3 has a MAP, but it takes a word and a block of code as parameters 
instead of a function.
And REDUCE means something different.
Janko
2-Jan-2009
[983]
aha thanks , yes rebol's  reduce has a different meaning I know