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Singy 23-Nov-2011 [3983] | C:\Users\Ken\Dropbox\Rebol\rebol.exe -s C:\Users\Ken\Dropbox\Rebol\ping-servers.r |
Pekr 23-Nov-2011 [3984] | try using call/wait/output. Your above code should work though ... |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [3985x2] | When you use the /input, /output, /error, or /console refinements you automatically set the /wait refinement. -- according to the docs, but I will try it anyway :) |
Tried it - it still hangs, bizarre!! | |
BrianH 23-Nov-2011 [3987] | What's the command in Crimson Editor for running a file of that type? |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [3988] | C:\Users\Ken\Dropbox\Rebol\rebol.exe -s "$(FilePath)" The intial directory is: $(FileDir) I'm using REBOL 2.7.8.3.1 |
Pekr 23-Nov-2011 [3989] | hmm, I tried call/output "start ping 10.10.10.10 -n 2" tmp: copy "", and R2 hangs too .... |
BrianH 23-Nov-2011 [3990] | It works without start though, even if you do call/show. Maybe it's a bad interaction with start, Pekr. |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [3991] | Works here on Windows 7 (using Singy's command-line). I'm using REBOL 2.7.6 though, so it might be another issue with CALL native in 2.7.8. |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [3992] | Dock the shortcut target line, when run in a cmd console runs the program fine. The only time it does not run is when I try to run the same command from the shortcut! |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [3993x3] | With Pekr's command-line, it hangs on once the ping finished. |
Let me try with a shortcut on 2.7.6... | |
With a shorcut, it hangs too, but if you add a /SHOW refinement to CALL, it works. | |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [3996] | Cool! Yes it does. Thanks Doc, but strange why it should need that - especially when the ugly blank console window now pops up. |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [3997x3] | /SHOW is for showing the shell window, it's blank because the output is captured by REBOL. |
It's probably a REBOL bug. | |
(the hanging, not the blank window). | |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4000] | Yes I think it is a bug, because the whole point of /output is to not use shell window but to capture the data that would be sent to it and use it instead in your program. Anyway - at least this is a workaround for now. Thanks for your input guys :)) |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4001] | /SHOW is a late addition to CALL, we used to live with the DOS window for years. |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4002x2] | Well - looks like I might be living with it for a few more yet - grins. |
I have another question - probably a dumb one - can you use make routine! to tap into .Net or is this impossible because it is a managed language? | |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4004] | make routine! only works on LOADable libraries, so you guessed right, you cannot do that for managed code. |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4005] | Thanks Doc. However, is there a way to tap into .Net from REBOL? As a network admin it would be useful at times. I know you can use call to draw upon powershell which in turn can use .Net but that seems a bit convoluted. Also I can use wmic via call as well. Any other thoughts on REBOL and .Net integration? |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4006x4] | Doing a quick search on this topic (as it's interesting also to me for Red), it seems that LOADing a .Net library is at least possible from C++: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/757298/loading-managed-c-dll-from-plain-c-program-via-loadlibrary |
From REBOL, you could set up a TCP communication channel with a .Net app to pass commands and receive data. You can achieve that using plain REBOL code or using a messaging library like 0MQ. | |
Maybe you could just make a simple powershell script for making it work as slave for REBOL. | |
(using a TCP channel) | |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4010] | Using a powershell script definitely works because I have tried it - I just used: call "powershell scriptname.ps1" and it worked. But of course I need to know 3 languages to do this - REBOl, powershell and .Net. |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4011x3] | I meant using a powershell script for writing a server that would receive commands from a REBOL client through TCP. The REBOL client could then hide the powershell commands inside adequate REBOL functions, making it feel more natural. |
It seems to be possible to write C wrappers for managed code too: http://www.dotnetmonster.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/dotnet-interop/5678/Can-Unmanaged-Code-call-LoadLibrary-on-a-managed-DLL | |
But, as for C++ wrappers, you need to statically make the bindings to given managed functions. | |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4014] | Hosting the Common Language Runtime - as per that last article sounds interesting - I wonder how large that would be. What about running REBOL in the DLR like iron python etc. Is such a thing doable? Or is that a blasphemous though to REBOlers? |
BrianH 23-Nov-2011 [4015] | You would have to rewrite REBOL from scratch to run it in the DLR. |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4016] | LOL - not much chance of that then! |
BrianH 23-Nov-2011 [4017] | That's how the Iron* languages did it :) |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4018] | It will be interesting to see how Doc pulls it off then when he gets to that stage in Red (interfacing to .Net I mean). I love REBOL but as a netwok admin who lives in a world of Windows being able to interact with all things Windows from REBOL would be heaven :)) |
BrianH 23-Nov-2011 [4019x2] | As someone who uses MS SQL Server a lot, being able to call R3 from .NET could lead to stored procedures written in REBOL, maybe :) |
In that case, reimplementation starts to look pretty good, or maybe even a Red port if it gets PARSE support :) | |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4021x2] | PARSE support: certainly! Supporting .Net as a target for Red compilation (more accurately: for Red/System compilation) is in the roadmap, but not a high-priority though. |
(but we're moving out of Rebol Schoold channel topic) | |
Singy 23-Nov-2011 [4023] | Well guys, I gotta go now, but thanks for all your help and for the stimulating discussion! |
Dockimbel 23-Nov-2011 [4024] | You're welcome, thanks for bringing that interesting topic. ;-) |
Pekr 23-Nov-2011 [4025] | IIRC, Max worked on R3 interfacing to .Net for some commercial entity. Not sure what' the current state, nor if it is going to be released to the public ... |
Awi 24-Nov-2011 [4026] | Hi, I am trying to write a Rebol app that download some .png map tiles from OpenStreetMap, and display them. Since Rebol does not support multithreading, while downloading every map tile, the user will face a non responding screen, which is not very nice. Is there a known trick to download in background, or something like that? Many thanks.. |
Henrik 24-Nov-2011 [4027] | Awi, maybe this is useful: http://www.colellachiara.com/soft/Libs/async-http.r |
Kaj 24-Nov-2011 [4028x2] | Not sure if this will be usable for you, but I have Red bindings to two OSM GTK+ libraries lined up that I will present at the GeoFreedomDay meeting December 10 |
http://www.geofreedomday.nl/2011/Red-System.html | |
Dockimbel 24-Nov-2011 [4030] | Looks good :-) |
Kaj 24-Nov-2011 [4031] | There's the minor issue that I still have to make them, so I hope it will work :-) |
Marco 26-Nov-2011 [4032] | @Awi: http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=threaddemo.r&sid=w2hg |
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