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todun 5-Oct-2011 [3868x2] | How do I make the data loaded from the file change to another token in the file when I click another button? |
@PeterWood, thanks for the suggestion. I will try that. | |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3870] | Please don't cross-post, thanks |
PeterWood 5-Oct-2011 [3871x3] | John: It isn't it was my mistake. |
Here is the correction: >> write %a.txt "12345^/" >> read/binary %a.txt == #{31323334350A} >> write/binary %b.txt head remove back tail read %a.txt >> read/binary %b.txt == #{3132333435} | |
So I believe the answer to todun's issue is the need to use the binary refinement of write to stop REBOL adding a newline at the end of the file. | |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3874] | @Kaj, I have no idea what the conventions are here or what all the different rooms mean. I assumed that my questions in "I'm new" were not meeting the requiremetns of the room so I posted here. Sorry if I'm tresspasing on some rule here. |
Henrik 5-Oct-2011 [3875] | we usually simply say "let's talk in group X", if a specific topic is inappropriate for the current group. |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3876x3] | @Henrik, thanks for the tip. |
@PeterWood, ok. thanks. I will try that. | |
how can I do MVC(Model View Controller) in REBOL? Thanks. | |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3879] | Look in the !QM QuarterMaster group here |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3880] | @Kaj: do I repost the question there or is this information someplace online? |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3881] | The answer is in there, so I don't think you'll have to repost :-) |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3882] | @Kaj, I just reposted. Oops. |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3883] | It's a good approach to want to design a first REBOL GUI program in MVC parts, but I think you'll find when you fit them together, that the resulting code would blend together. We don't really talk in MVC terms about View code |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3884] | @Kaj, what is idiomatic REBOL to approach my problem? How do I make sense of it? |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3885x2] | There's not much idiom for this, like in general in functional languages, because for such a small program, not much code is needed in REBOL |
Just write the three MVC parts and then fit them together | |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3887] | @Kaj, ok. So I can just write all my VIEW as a function. Repeat the same for Model and CONTROLLER? How will I then combine them? |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3888x2] | A view is typically a template. In REBOL, it would be a piece of View dialect |
Model and controller would be functions, that you can then connect to the View GUI | |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3890x3] | @Kaj, thanks. This is begining to make sense. The view is like a template, something static the user will see. The MODEL, is a function, the controller coordinates with Model and View somehow. |
@Kaj, I've not used MVC much myself, but the rumor out there is that it's one way to go. So when you say connect them, what do you mean? | |
@Kaj, Also, when I have a Model with multiple parts that are best represesnted as functions themselves, how can I make it available to the view(these "sub-functions")? | |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3893x4] | What you call idiom would mostly be the View dialect. That's specifically for specifying GUIs |
The GUI dialect has places for actions. That's where your model and controller functions would go | |
For simple programs, that code is often so small that we tend to write it out directly in the GUI dialect | |
If you have little experience with all the forms of MVC, it's better to forget it and just follow the REBOL tutorials | |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3897x2] | @Kaj, can you point me to a sample program that has these features you speak of? |
Kaj, I have looked at several REBOL tutorialss and I cannot seem to be able to make them do exactly what I wanted, hence my pining for a paradigm like MVC. | |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3899] | No, as I say, we don't usually use MVC as such. Any View example shows how to specify some GUI with some actions |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3900] | @Kaj, oh I see. So an action like an Alert? |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3901x2] | Perhaps, but an alert usually has its own little dialog GUI |
Actions within the GUI dialect are regular REBOL code, so they can be anything | |
todun 5-Oct-2011 [3903] | @Kaj, ok. do you have an example in mind? |
Kaj 5-Oct-2011 [3904] | Please follow the many tutorials linked from the REBOL site |
todun 6-Oct-2011 [3905x3] | @Kaj: Ok thanks. |
is there a way to add 5 to a variable anytime it is called? for example x: 0 .... counter: x + 5 | |
so everytime I call counter it should result in 5, 10, ... | |
Geomol 6-Oct-2011 [3908] | >> counter: does [x: x + 5] >> x: 0 == 0 >> counter == 5 >> counter == 10 Or do I misunderstood? |
todun 6-Oct-2011 [3909] | @Geomol, thanks. That is perfect. |
Geomol 6-Oct-2011 [3910] | Anyway, pretty much everything is possible in REBOL, so just specify as precise as you can, what you want, and someone will come up with an idea how to do it. |
todun 6-Oct-2011 [3911x2] | @Geomol, good to know. thanks. |
What does a misplaced item error mean? I get it when I try to read a file like so: lines: read/lines %file.txt | |
Geomol 6-Oct-2011 [3913] | Maybe there are some strange data in the file? |
Pekr 6-Oct-2011 [3914] | todun - a little bit more dynamic version of counter: counter: func ['var add-value][if not value? var [set var 0] set var (get var) + add-value] counter x 10 ; --- x does not have to exist, and if is inicialised and set to 0 |
todun 6-Oct-2011 [3915x3] | @Pekr, thanks. Will see if that can fit into my implementation. |
@Geomol, no. This worked before. | |
Can I post code here or something so you can see what I'm doing right or wrong? | |
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