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Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3745] | The things are a bit more complicated. The situation is this: win-copy: copy/deep win: [ slider 100x20 across btn "ok" [win-copy: make win [] hide-popup] btn "Cancel" [win: make win-copy [] hide-popup] ] win: layout win win-copy: layout win-copy view layout [btn "second win" [inform win]] When the user presses ok the win layout should be copied to the win-copy face, when the user presses Cancel the win-copy layout should be copied to the win face so when the user presses ok it appears the previous modified layout, when the user presses cancel it appears the previous layout but unmodified. Obviously I could copy the faces values but in my application there are a lot of gadgets and this would be a more general and simple solution. |
Henrik 21-Aug-2011 [3746] | I'm not sure I understand entirely. Are you simply trying to store the face values? |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3747x7] | rebol school without a proper documentation on parse how futile is that ? |
first properlt explain n parse from nothing to makedoc pro level parse then you will have a cahnce to stand as a rebol school | |
you guys talk big but act low and it's your responsability to proove me wrong with FACTS with documents | |
how is it that rebgui brought the shit out of me and that RMA just let me unsensible ? | |
yeah you try to avoid this conversation cause it doesn't suits you be please do the effort lower your godess self to my level and have a proper discussion I let you live for the past year with humm the less possible of my hate and ranting so now be man anough to face my full power | |
and be aware I'm not this noob around I' m a ten year contributor of rebol bringing stuff I was the only one to bring sone how I managed to get myself helped this has to be acknoleged liek the fact that now in day the only rebol dicionary in french is due to me | |
I LOVE REBOL I AM COMITED TO REBOL AND IT MAKES ME SUFFER THE SITUATION WE ARE IN ... rebol is suich a great work that even his author ran far from it how sensless is that ? | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3754] | @Henrik If you move the sli |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3755x3] | you all forgot about the basic rebol = carl no carl no rebol that it .. why commenting r3 mopre than r2 and if we comment r2 can we do it forgetting about rebplug rebservices rebplug etc ? |
rebcode ? | |
rebconsole rebol/desktop ? can you say to me serriously thar the actual r3 isn't even on part to r2/core ? | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3758] | @Henrik If you move the slider and press ok and then re-open the window it should be where you left it. If you move it and press Cancel it should return to its previous value. (In my program I have lots os sliders). So it would be better to store the entire object and copy it rather then store a lot of faces values. |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3759x3] | and if you dare say so .... as I'm not a ne chicken around I wiukd ask ytou why there is no viva'-rebol in r3 and why there is no cheyenne! based on r3 |
not talking on SQL protocol since you guys just don't care | |
don't you see all you do is endless talking about thing that don't mean a thing ? who cares if r3 split splits ,,, carl is gone for mounth now And I won't let you rest until you take some position and do something | |
Henrik 21-Aug-2011 [3762] | Marco, that is problematic, as copying face objects may destroy certain bindings in a face, essentially causing faces to be "entangled", some functions work only with the old face and some only with the new face. It depends on the style and how it was written. Memory, speed and complexity of the operation gets worse, the bigger the layout. It's easier to just generate the face once, store the values and use GET-FACE and SET-FACE on the layout. |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3763x2] | actually you do like carl wasn't missing and you all dream of a better world |
yeah ignore me like you ignored the thousand telling you that rebol lacked implication and commitement in the end those are right | |
Henrik 21-Aug-2011 [3765] | store the values and use GET-FACE and SET-FACE - more accurately, "store and retrieve the values using GET-FACE and SET-FACE". |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3766x3] | who cares henrik get face set face who cares there is no r3gui |
and r2 VID we went as far as we could on it and it ended to be bugged reason why we started 5 years ago r3 | |
so yeah you can endlessly talk about r2 ... a product that was abandoned by it's author to do r3 ... and he abandoned r3 too .... | |
Henrik 21-Aug-2011 [3769] | Marco, the one thing that VID then doesn't do so well is allow groups of faces to be SET-FACEd and GET-FACEd easily, which is probably what scared you. The VID Extension Kit solves this by allowing these functions to work on entire layouts. |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3770x2] | we all knew that carl lackled commitement toward r3 those missing phased where even at first called "Carl's cave thinking process" all those years you lied to us |
and he lied to us .. he never gived enough work to rebol to make rebol something big and you as a community acknoledged it and played that game | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3772] | @shadwolf I didn't know about viva rebol. I knew about areatc because I found it somewere I can't recall. Why don't you upload it to rebol.org so other can benefit from it. I personally will download and start examining it to learn thing expecially the menu bar ;) |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3773x2] | rebol is all about carl's working 2 moth for it his ass off and letting the rest of the year pass by unfortunatly for the people her 2 moth of of carl's work is worthwhile |
marco I'm sad but not surprise you don't know about me ... who will tell you about who I Am ? HENRIK ? Robert Muünch ? do robert münch the all mighty RMA guru told you I was the only one in betting on his MAkje doc Pro dialect when everyone else was considering him as a spinoff project of carl's MAke doc ? | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3775] | @shadwolf Why don't you upload viva rebol to rebol.org so others can benefit from it ? |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3776x4] | do robert told you that in that era (6 years ago) his make doc pro was one of the many spin off project around carl ? do robert tells you that slapping me steeve and ashley on their face by totally ignoring rebgui to do r3gui wasn't the brightesdt idea ? |
marco cause I don't want to support a stupid rebol.org that make me a pain to submit my creation and trust me I really tryed ard to make this sucker of sunanda understand thsi point ... | |
since 2004 rebol.org not changed a bit | |
HOW can I support that we are just SEVEN YEARS LATER !!! what was hum a fault of youth in 2004 is just a stupid lack of work and comitement in 2011 and to tell yopu the truth rebol.org was done as response of french commity script sharing tool I PRESEN TED IN REBOL DAYS | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3780] | @shadwolf I am new to the rebol "scene". Why is it a pain to submit a script? |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3781x3] | this is the main thing here ... lots of bunch orf rebol world were entrusted to us the rebol comunity and we just wasted it !!! have you ever seen sunanda asking for help ? have you ever seen RMA asking for help ? have you seen my viva-rebol page ? don't I ask for help ?! do that help is granted so far ?! look the people realy helping me on area-tc where maxime and steeve and steeve wrote the mote of the code I was just he lucky dumb ass to show the way and I assume it |
but htis community just do like I don't exist like my10 years of work for rebol was nothing and I should be down with that without a word ?! | |
@marco rebol is not worth carl time how can it be worth you time ?! | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3784] | @shadwolf Fortunatly I don't use rebol for earning money. If so I probably will think similar to you. Why is it a pain to submit a script? |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3785x4] | I was one of te main contributor to RebGUI I was the one that convinced ashley to do rebgui .... in fact here is how it went after a rebolday in paris france I ended talking with some in the time french gurus and then told me what is a core truth .... the strong point of rebol is VID but VID isn't suited enought to stand on par with other products like wxwindows QT GTK+ or win 32 |
marco hum for the thing In should use rebol I can use perl or python or ruby ---. | |
you want to compare rebol 3 VID any time I take you with python gtk+ or ruby wxwindows | |
problem is computing world progressed and rebol world got stuck on 1998 | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3789] | @shadwolf Why is it a pain to submit a script? |
shadwolf 21-Aug-2011 [3790x4] | so yeah people like robert or cyphre are all full of their granted gurus state grantgeds by the missing carl but as a follower the basic question is what RMA produced this past year can it be compared to entienne's work or asheley's work ? why ashley isn't a part of RMA ? why this troll of shadwolf that was very active in rebgui isn't part of RM A ? why this trolll ofg shadwolf that produced neither the less eareatc and viva-rebol isn't par of RMA ? why this troll of shadwolf that is the only one t had write a browser tool for robert Munch's MDP isn't part of RMA ? |
marco it's a pain to submit a script to rebol.org cause you have to exactly properly stupidly and exactly submit the header !! | |
look mnarco sionce 2004 try to tell sunanda that the rebol script header in rebol.org could be done with a form you know html <form> </form> and since 2004 there is noooooooooooooo way to make thsi all mighty guru understand thus !!! | |
worst when I gently take on my free time to give some advice as a professional that get 7K euros every month to do websites in php javascript c /C++/java/.net since more thamn 20 years .. I'm just ignored liek you can see henriok ignores me hoping my rage wares off on its own to resume it's futile routine | |
Marco 21-Aug-2011 [3794] | @shadwolf Perhaps it's a pain to submit a script to rebol.org cause you have to exactly properly stupidly and exactly submit the header !!, but if you kindly do that you can share your good scripts with others who can learn from them (this is Rebol school ;) ) and more progress in rebol will be done. Better not hope in others to follow our advices (or answer our questions) |
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