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kib2 26-Feb-2009 [2488] | >>it looks like you're inside son-instance I don't understand why, sorry. I'm inside mother (I mean, when I write it "son-instance", but maybe it's a bad Python habit). mother: make object! [ name: "object a" son-instance: make son [parent: self] ] |
Graham 26-Feb-2009 [2489x2] | http://rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/objects-self.html |
you're creating a new object son-instance so self now refers to son-instance | |
kib2 26-Feb-2009 [2491x2] | You mean when I write "make son ..." I'm already inside the son object ? |
that may explain my problem | |
Graham 26-Feb-2009 [2493] | I think so. |
kib2 26-Feb-2009 [2494x2] | ok: thanks ! |
Is there any lib somewhere to encode or decode a file to utf-8 ? | |
Anton 27-Feb-2009 [2496x2] | Test it: >> son: context [parent: self] >> son/parent = son == true |
You could do: mother: context [ son: context compose [parent: (self)] ] so now >> mother/son/parent = mother == true | |
Graham 27-Feb-2009 [2498] | better idea :) |
Anton 27-Feb-2009 [2499] | Oldes did some work with unicode, if I remember correctly. |
kib2 27-Feb-2009 [2500] | Anton: hi! thanks a lot: what's the meaning of the parenthesis here ? |
Anton 27-Feb-2009 [2501x4] | The COMPOSE rebuilds the block, with anything in parens evaluated first. |
So SELF will be evaluated before the second CONTEXT has a chance to see it. | |
But, if you're curious, you can always have a look yourself, using PROBE, eg: mother: context [son: context compose probe [parent: (self)]] mother: context [son: context probe compose [parent: (self)]] | |
mother: context [son: context probe compose [parent: (self)]] etc.. | |
kib2 27-Feb-2009 [2505x2] | ah...funny : nice example. |
For the encoding, I was asking this because all my accented chars in HTML appear correctly but one, the "à". | |
Anton 27-Feb-2009 [2507x2] | Just move the probe from right to left to find out what's happening. |
kib2, check rebol.org. I just did some quick searching. http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=utf8-encode.r http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=utf-8.r | |
kib2 27-Feb-2009 [2509] | Anton: thanks, exactly what I was looking for :) |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2510] | Is it possible to draw something (lines, arrows, curves, etc) on top of buttons in a GUI app ? |
Geomol 2-Mar-2009 [2511] | view layout [button 200 "Button with graphics" effect [draw [line 0x0 10x20 40x0 60x20]]] |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2512] | Geomol: sorry, I should have said "on top of several buttons". See http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3664/3323050539_dbd72b61e8_o.png where I want to draw lines between numbers. |
Geomol 2-Mar-2009 [2513] | view layout [origin 0 space 0 button 50x50 "1" button 50x50 "2" at 0x0 box 50x100 effect [draw [line 0x0 30x20 0x60 40x100]]] |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2514] | Extra: thank you! |
Henrik 2-Mar-2009 [2515] | will events pass through the box? |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2516] | Henrik: I think so, why ? |
Geomol 2-Mar-2009 [2517] | :-) heh, prob. not. But I bet, kib can figure that out. Don't you wanna interact the buttons with the mouse? |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2518] | Geomol: yes with the mouse; in fact if you click on a number, i should draw all possible bridges (lines) coming from it. |
Geomol 2-Mar-2009 [2519x2] | When you have the box with the lines on top over all the buttons, you can't press them directly. |
Your mouse button press will 'hit' the box with graphics. | |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2521] | Ok, thanks for the hints : I think I have to study VID events a little more than what I've already done. |
PatrickP61 2-Mar-2009 [2522] | I have a question on same? Do the following: a: "apple" b: to-string 'apple same? a b == false Why is that, they are both strings of the same length and datatype, just not created in the same way? |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2523] | Good question : i really don't know. Moreover, a == b returns true. |
PatrickP61 2-Mar-2009 [2524x2] | I tried this too: a: "apple" b: "apple same? a b == false Does same? mean that it is the same object, not that the contents are the same? |
I found the answer, It is ONLY if the two are the same object | |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2526] | I know that = compares values, == compares values and types. Same? is native, and the docs says "Returns TRUE if the values are identical". |
Henrik 2-Mar-2009 [2527x2] | same? means litterally the very same string. |
same? is useful for identifying references. | |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2529] | Henrik: do you mean their location (via a pointer) ? |
Henrik 2-Mar-2009 [2530x3] | yes |
it's not entirely like pointers, but BrianH can explain that much better than me. | |
>> a: "boo" == "boo" >> b: reduce [a copy a] == ["boo" "boo"] >> same? b/1 a == true >> same? b/2 a == false | |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2533] | ok, it's clearer now. But how do you explain this ? a: "apple" b: to-string a same? a b ; --> returns false Does that mean that to-string makes just a copy of a, and so does not point to the same location ? |
PatrickP61 2-Mar-2009 [2534] | This link seems a little confusing to me http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/functions/same-q.html At first, it seems like it is comparing the values of two objects, but if you read further, it says they must reference the same objectS |
Henrik 2-Mar-2009 [2535x2] | kib2: yes. to get the desired effect, use AS-STRING instead of TO-STRING. That is an R2 only feature though. |
Patrick, yes, I agree, it should be written more clearly. | |
kib2 2-Mar-2009 [2537] | understood, thanks. |
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