World: r3wp

But I wouldn't count out Babylon yet...

Babylon is the mainstream state of the art...REBOL brings communications 
back to mankind...

(was meaning tower of Babble)

The camera man whas drunk ? ;-) Reichart it whas realy cool, i can't 
watched all the videos today but i'will download them later

I appreciated being able to see the videos. Facial expressions and 
tone of speech convey a lot information. Generally, the presentations 
were interesting - providing good "food for thought". One item out 
of many, was Gregg's turtle metaphor - a great idea. Leaves you with 
a new way of looking at things, which is what is great about REBOL 
itself.  Good to see a varied set of participants there too.  "Devcon 
was cool?" - I think the coolest thing was an apparent gathering 
of momentum and intent going forward. Good stuff.

The occasional focus changes were due to a bad autofocus situation. 
Any aleged drunkenness on the part of the cameraman wouldn't have 
affected the picture :)

Brett, I also grokked Gregg's "turtle" hunting metaphor.  Already 
I have filled more than a page of inspirations from it.  Here is 
a sampling of  my found design patterns, mostly in REBOL which are 
powerful "turtles" which are concrete examples of what Gregg said:


1. View console where a user can type VID/View lines, and hit return 
to see what they do.

2. Using print statements to the console from a View script to understand 
it (so easy to do protytping)

3. Parts of layout.r IDE with Nubs, and you generate scripts (which 
are human readible) from the GUI.
4. The source and help systems built-in to REBOL

5. Arexx for Inter-App-Messaging (I listened intently to Gab's Reb/Services 
talk saying "Arexx of the X-Internet")
6. awk file parsing. (I know Gregg wrote rawk.r a while back)

... "Turtle hunting" challenges us to develop more of these.

7. make-doc where you type text in that simple dialect and produce 
typeset quality results.

8. show where you type text in that simple dialect and produce professional 
quality presentations.

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I would like to learn from you men's experience. What is the best 
path to getting started in video podcasting?

What is better for video podcasting, MP3 or MP4?

(wierd, could have sworn I posted above to "Tech News", not "devcon2005")

MP3 = audio; MP4 = video.

Gabriele, oh. Makes a difference!

Gabriele, Thanks for providing all the Devcon videos (that really 
helps improve the remote attendance!)

It's a shame I can not watch the videos with my DVD player. I  just 
bought a cheap (40 euro) dvd player that plays zones 1/2 and MP4. 
I've copied the NerdTV MP4 interviews (see links) and have enjoyed 
quite a lot watching that on TV rather than the monitor ... but the 
devcon videos don't play (probably because of the MP4 profile and 
the audio not being MP3/WMA)

you could reencode them to fit your player.

what would be their size if would be encoded using divx or xvid? 
Even the cheapest DVD players do support such codecs ....

Yes, I thought about using transcode in linux. It's a shame all the 
variations don't make MP4 use as smooth as it could be. e.g. on Linux 
Fedora4 I could only get audio+video for your experimental encoding 
(trips to rome .. BTW, what is the band playing the background music 
?) . For the other files I could only get video but no audio so I 
had to check it in windows XP SP1 (where latest quicktime  and media 
player wouldn't play them (quicktime said incompatible profile) but 
an old VLC release played them fine)

Pekr, for the MP4 CD I got to fit about 7 hours of NerdTV. I don't 
think transcoding would change the size much . I think divx/xvid 
is similar compression

divx is actually an implementation of MP4

yes, xvid and divx are a variation on the MPEG4 standard (created 
when MPEG4 was not yet approved as a standard IIRC)

note that ffmpeg's mpeg4 is playable by divx and vice versa

I think Maarten sounds like Sean Connery...watching his talk from 
Devcon

And almost as bald ;-)

But thanks, you just lost one REBOL to the monie business :-)

monie=movie

btw - looking at Carl slides, there was a question of where to do 
Devcon next year? Were there any tips? Or will it be Czech Republic? 
:-)

wasn't Paris mentioned?

Yes, there was some talk about Paris for next year DevCon.

Yep. It seems it will be Paris, but maybe the Czech's can compete 
for it ;-)

ok, France sounds good - there is rather active community there, 
although this year, there was only one person from France, no?

Prague is nice/historical town too :-)

And Jaime would surely prefer CZ, as we have the best beer here and 
Jaime likes Beer! (at least as a product/framework) :-)

And as drink ;-)

Czech Republic is quite beautiful from history Praha, to Industrious 
Liberec (Bohemia), too beautiful country in Krazenko (Moldavia). 
I certainly enjoyed my short visit there.

...and we didn't manage to show you the Czech Paradise, Jizera Mountains, 
Jested view, ...

We should put it to a vote.  I vote in Czech, although does not need 
to be Prague.

Jamie: That Moldavia is Moravia actually. The biggest difference 
is that Moldavia has access to sea and we don't ;)

I vote alsoe for Czech. It is also more affordable. Specially if 
hosted outside of Prague.

Is there anything wrong with Prague? OK, lot's of contacts in Prague, 
I may try to arrange some lucrative small hotel and we could arrange 
trip to Prague ....

besides that, CZ will become next big REBOL country after France, 
that is for sure :-)

First you will have to attend the DevCon. There were four people 
from the Netherlands and two from Belgium, and then I found out that 
Reichart is half Dutch :-)

:-)

it was nice to meet you there

Netherlands is ok - my most favourite bands - The Gathering, Within 
Temptation are from Netherlands, so it would be ok to me :-)

It sure was :-)

And maybe an Elan concert?

what do you know about Elan?

I work with a guy who is from the Czech Republic and his brother 
and friends built my house. They constantly played the "megaconcert" 
CD. And I mean constantly...: ^)