World: r3wp

IIRC is mostly common and I wonder if IRC ports are blocked :-) Even 
our company allows ports like ICQ or IRC upon written request ....

I think the lesson for next year would be "hold it someplace where 
you know you can get to the outside world," because the rest of us 
get a little cranky :-)

I wonder if there was no single notebook with GPRS connection? Even 
I have one and we are quite not so rich country you know :-)

Make no assumptions ...

Lucky so-and-so. I don't have a GPRS. I don't even know what it is.

o_0

it is PCMCIA card, holding your GSM card - basically a GSM connection, 
packed based - so you are accounted for how many of data you transfer, 
not for how long you "talk".

allows global wireless roaming at about 14kbs

ah, ok. Thanks

I guess it is being replaced now by 3G.

so basically your cell-phone in PCMCIA slot, using packet based connection. 
All three mobile operators provide it here. There is not even newer 
standard, called EDGE, which runs upon that and allows speed up to 
150kbit, which is nice for basically cell-phone connection ...

what about edge ? doens't suposed to go about 48kbs ¿?

3G is run on a long distance .... at least here ...

That does sound pretty good. I just use WiFi at home and the local 
coffee shops.

hoo i see

EDGE is here already too, just your GSM stations have to support 
that and here in CZ such are only in big towns yet ....

but even one single GPRS connection is very fine for things like 
AltME and to obey firewall problems .... actually, I am writing now 
from my notebook at my work, so via GPRS, otherwise our company uses 
really strict firewall policies :-)

what about SMS ? could be easy to deliver text this whay ?

SMS? Not sure - it is only some 160 chars ... not so reliable .... 
costst money ...

I have really relatively cheap GPRS connection, unlimited data, 24/7 
for some 40 USD ....

wherever I travell in CZ, and I can reach the signal of my GSM provider, 
then I am on internet ....

streaming seems the better choice, i still dont know why this wasn't 
possible at devcon

yes, of course - thewere was problem with firewall at the place devcon 
took place. But streaming does take large thougput - the thing is 
- there was no single GPRS connection, so we not only missed streaming, 
but we were basically cut-off of any info, untill Reichart/Jiame 
managed connection for a short period of time or Reichart used QTask 
to provide us with some info ...

well... this kind of things shoud be known prior the conference dont 
you think, as far i know this whas just a pizza party in italy, we 
work with computers, dont we ?

I suspect some rather embarrassed faces will appear in a few days 
...

heh. yeah.

I will assume GPRS charges will be different once you travel overseas...with 
global roamin account etc

yes GPRS is an expensive whay to do things.

Yek. if 30% of rebol comunity whas at DevCon, how many members do 
you think rebol has ?

17 ;-)

within RT?

GPRS is not expensive at all. Of course Roamed it is expensive, but 
I assume at least one Itallian could have GPRS available :-)

o_0

Benjamin - there were 30 ppl, not 30% :-) But even then, we are really 
small imo ...

yes including RT

i did know it whas impossible, i just what to know some numbers

I would think ...30-50 active (as defined by those whom you can see 
on ML, AltMe, QTask etc).


there are those who dun participate as much... and that can bring 
up to 100 or so...

I believe a huge portion of the French community have their own channels 
to communicate

still noone from DevCon here?

dont realy know why ... is 4Am here, so im not shure if im chatting 
for real or dreaming about chatting on altme...

they have much to digest after the DevCon

btw strange France has so large community and only DideC attended 
the DevCon .... I thought that France and Italy are neighbour countries 
:-)

fly tikets are realy cheap in europe thats realy strage, you'r right.

Perhaps the wine wasn't good enough?

Brian:  <I think the lesson for next year would be "hold it someplace 
where you know you can get to the outside world,">

The big issue is that its held where someone volunteered to host 
it. That may not meet everyone's needs, but its unfair to knock a 
volunteer for not doing something no one else volunteered for either.


One idea for next year......a non-attender volunteers to be info 
officer.....They get the papers in advance, and publish them according 
to the conference schedule. So at least the backbone is published 
in sync....... Now, someone solve the interacive bits....But we now 
really need a DevCon2006 group.

Sunanda - let's not just complicate things. If someone can't get 
one single GPRS non-behind the firewall connection, than it is a 
bit worrying :-)

Noone just knocks Gabriele for anything :-) In fact, if I think about 
the devcon in Prague eventually, I alredy  know it really will cost 
a LOT of energy to spend. Gabriele did very good job, the troubles 
just happen ...

Basically we are just sorry it happened ..... but maybe next year 
it would be good to have slides for presentations before the conference. 
With most conferences, it is requirement also ... otoh I can imagine 
someone hacking his presentation few hours before the actual lesson 
:-) We are all somehow pressed for the time :-)

OK, what do you want to know?

everything :-)