World: r3wp

I am now surprised the implementation differs between the platforms. 
Call is one of necessary beta quality fixes ....

ah ... well, how is that it worked with R2?

Carl once said that the C code for R2 CALL is 1200 lines. If he wasn't 
joking, he has saved 600-fold over that so far

BrianH is probably right, that because the code is part of host, 
we can fix it ourselves

1200 lines? uh :-)

it had  some quirks and evolved at almost every iteration of the 
language.

Yes, I expect you to start coding now :-)

Petr, that is

I don't care for coding, I prefer to complain around, until it gets 
fixed ...

We know...

Kaj - so stop using the wrong attitude ... you just fit old R2 mental 
model :-)

Problem is, it's just complaining. You think it makes things go faster, 
but it doesn't

I just analysed R3 code for you. How does that earn me an accusation 
of R2 mindset?

http://www.rebol.net/wiki/REBOL_adoption#.22You_can_code_it_in_few_lines.22_attitude

Well, here's the news: by releasing host code, Carl has just extended 
that principle to the C code, as well

You see? I don't care. I can see it as an repetitive pattern, which 
is very wrong ... 80% of potential newcomers will NEVER actually 
care to implement anything themselves. I have seen the attitude with 
Gabriele, Holger, RT ... I hate it

That would be excellent, because 20% of your users contributing would 
be phenomenal

Not everyone can code. But I proposed bounties. I sponsored 500USD 
for networking protocols ...

Word just came out that even the VLC project, one ot the most popular 
programs ever, doesn't even have any contributors left for the Mac 
version

Yes, that is sad (VLC)

I still think, that Amiga/MorphOS like bounties could be motivating 
factor for some ppl to pick-up and deliver some stuff for R3.

pekr... one problem today is that people have come to an assumption 
that software programs itself.    I don't know where that is coming 
from, but in ALL real projects... 


at some point, you actually do have to raise your sleeves and put 
a little effort into it.

We actually find it uplifting, because it means things aren't as 
bad as it may seem for Syllable

If 10 ppl can spend 50, it might be enough for someone to do fix 
here or there ...

Maxim, it's to blame on the AI mongerers who implanted that thought 
in the public's mind in the previous century :-)

Kaj - but the overall situation of VLC might be a bit different, 
no? OS-X is kind of multimedia system. It uses iTunes, Quicktime, 
so maybe it is not problem of VLC community itself, but maybe just 
on OS-X, there is not enough of users interested in VLC?

No, every Mac user has VLC installed

It's just the sad state of human nature

on mac VLC is very usefull... it plays all the stuff Apple doesn't 
want you to look at  ;-)


its actually one of the few softwares installed on my mac (I've only 
had to install 4 so far, 1 being a game I bought)

I'm OK with people not contributing, but then they should keep their 
big mouths shut

hmm, then I don't understand it ...

The sad state is also that we have this strange and powerfull urge 
to feed... and working on software for free... is usually done by 
need, or Academia, cause they can.

Anyone know how to allow a windows user to deelete files off a samba 
share?

Should just work, but the permissions need to be right, both in the 
Samba configuration and the underlying Unix file system

You're layering two very different permission systems over each other, 
and that can be hellishy difficult

I guess the issue is that the windows user is not the samba user

Depending on the rest of the configuration, you may have to sync 
those

But the issue can be any ot a whole series

I'm logged on to the windows 2003 box as Administrator, but samba 
won't let me add Administrator as a samba user

I don't know the specifics of current Samba versions, but it can't 
be far away in the documentation

I gave up .. setup ftp on the windows server and will use ftp on 
the linux side to send the files across as required.

Is there someone using postfix under debian? I lost my /etc/init.d/postfix 
script I cannot find it anywhere... without the script I cannot even 
reinstall postfix:/

Can't reinstall or can't reconfigure?

Can't do nothing as everything stops on trying to stop the service 
using the script which does not exists

also    apt-get install postfix   stops on trying to run the script.

Was that the original script or did you modify it?

original

Then you can probably get it out of one of the original packages, 
such as here:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/postfix/

Interesting catch 22, by the way