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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Graham
22-Aug-2007
[1090]
well, it could have been a guru meditation
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1091x2]
Hm...
Soory, forgot to upload the JPG version I made. It's there now
Graham
22-Aug-2007
[1093]
S3 storage?
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1094x2]
Yup :-)
I might also mention that, a few days ago, I also ran AROS on Syllable 
Server. On Bochs, similar to how I did on Syllable Desktop a few 
weeks ago
Pekr
22-Aug-2007
[1096]
Kaj, it seems to me, that even osnews.com audience is slowly warming 
up to the Syllable, don't you think? :-) At least response is vital 
....
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1097]
Yeah. We had to make an awful lot of effort for our PR campaign of 
the last months, though, to make it happen
Pekr
22-Aug-2007
[1098x2]
what do you mean by effort?
As for me, I tried to contact Tom Halwerda one year ago, when RT 
announced they are developing R3. He refused to publish it. I then 
objected, that they are posting much less important newsbits from 
various other communities, but he said that mainstream systems as 
Win, OS-X have some priviledge ...
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1100x2]
News events every other day and articles to go with them on OSNews 
don't get created by the fairies overnight
Unless I'm a fairy, that is...
Pekr
22-Aug-2007
[1102]
I hope this time, once R3 beta is out, they will not hesitate to 
post about it. And I also think, that Syllable helped REBOL on osnews 
a bit. Because if OS designers decided to use such language, it ought 
to be rather good :-)
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1103x2]
I suspect Thom's objection was mainly that you wanted him to publish 
it a year before there was any new product :-)
That's what I mean, we have been consistently producing real news
Pekr
22-Aug-2007
[1105]
I don't agree though. IIRC interview with Guido about upcoming P3 
was there. P3 development has started just recently, and is due to 
be finished next summer .....
Kaj
22-Aug-2007
[1106x3]
Don't worry, though, R3 will be mentioned on OSNews in Syllable articles 
:-)
Dunno, we were just contacted by the Python crew about Syllable support 
in P3. It's for real. You can never know that with a closed-source 
company - especially not one from the Amiga scene...
Can't say I blame Thom. He's been good with us
Robert
24-Aug-2007
[1109]
Kaj, can you give me a management summary about the differences Syllable 
Server / Desktop?
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1110x2]
Yes: Server runs on Linux, while Desktop has its own kernel and filesystem
Server currently doesn't have the Syllable GUI yet, but it will come
Robert
24-Aug-2007
[1112x2]
Why not use the desktop kernel and FS for the server side too?
I mean, what's the benefit of getting a server based on the linux 
kernel? Than I can use Linux right from the start.
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1114x4]
Because they were designed for desktop services. Linux is continuously 
optimized as a server
Also, Linux is stable now, not a few years from now
And it has software that also takes time to port to Desktop
Of course you can use Linux, but what is Linux? We are providing 
a Linux, and we think it will be a damn fine one
Graham
24-Aug-2007
[1118x2]
what I would like to see is a server linux that runs vmware out of 
the box
without having to keep recompiing the kernel
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1120]
Ubuntu and others do
Graham
24-Aug-2007
[1121]
not without some work
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1122]
I'm currently integrating QEmu
Graham
24-Aug-2007
[1123x3]
various how toos ...
qemu ?  run windows 20003 on that?
I saw a how to on that somewhere
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1126]
Sure
Graham
24-Aug-2007
[1127]
to run 2003 on ec2 I think
Kaj
24-Aug-2007
[1128x4]
Yeah, such combinations are interesting
We're on OSNews again (well, we haven't been off the front page for 
a few weeks), this time with our new Syllable Newsletter:
http://osnews.com/story.php/18508/Revived-Syllable-Newsletter-Published
There are mentions of REBOL and AROS in there
Kaj
10-Sep-2007
[1132x2]
Our provider went belly up, and I'm now rewriting our site in REBOL:
http://syllable.org
Kaj
6-Oct-2007
[1134x6]
The time has arrived! We have released Syllable Server
It's a development release. A lot of work remains to be done in the 
time to come, but I made sure it's usable for several things already
It doesn't have the Syllable graphical environment yet, but it can 
run graphical SDL and DirectFB programs
That includes emulators. QEmu is included, so you can run many other 
operating systems on Server, including itself
The system is very small, so it's suitable both as a virtualisation 
host and as a virtualisation guest
Both REBOL/Core and ORCA are included