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Any printer support?

JForth seems to be a freeware binary distribution. Without the source, 
there's nothing to port. Also, it seems to be completely Amiga-specific. 
There are plenty of Forths that would be much easier and more useful 
to port

No printer support yet. We're planning to port and integrate CUPS 
in the 0.6.x series, which we will start soon. Basic printer support 
will probably happen in the coming year

I thought they released the source code as well ... perhaps not.

I don't see it. One of the authors later wrote a portable Forth, 
so JForth is probably not very portable

But you could try, of course :-)

I doubt it's that specific to the Amiga.  Only intuition calls etc 
would be specific.

You're welcome to try. If it's standard C code, it wouldn't be hard 
to compile

I see that the license is basically BSD, so it would probably include 
source code, indeed

The runtime portion of a Forth is extremely small, so if you can 
get that to compile, you're basically there

first off I have to find a lha decompressor!

Ah, the good old times of competing compressors

Dont know if that makes much sense, big + was good amiga-integration.

huh?

jforth i mean.

That reminds me of an old Amiga housemate that we drove crazy by 
giving him a BBS that he wanted, but compressed in a format that 
we knew he didn't have an unpacker for :-)

but that reminded me on bigforth, and i confused typing.

For two weeks, we downloaded unpackers for him that were themselves 
compressed in a format that he didn't have yet. It became ever more 
difficult to find combinations that gave him no path to unpack his 
Amiga BBS

Is that prior art to drm? :))

In the end he threw us out of his room. I can still see him raving 
on his doorstep. It was great fun :-)

I hope you're not intending to give carl the same problems should 
he attempt a port.

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jforth/JFNews.html:))

A few years ago I visited his wedding party, so I guess we're OK 
:-)

Bad performance of that server. Had it run AtheOS, it would have 
easily survived a few Slashdottings :-)

Maybe it was mentioned there? :)

It says it compiles to 68000 machine code. This thing is very specific 
to 68000 and to Amiga. Not at all suitable for porting to Syllable

That compilation is done by the compiler. I doubt they have a lot 
of assember in it. But strong point is integration with amiga-apis 
AFAIK, i guess without it its just a forth.

What compiler? A C compiler, or some sort of Forth compiler?

forth-compiler.

Doesn't look like they released the original assembler or c source

That's what I mean. 68000 Output is no good on Syllable

But the usual ones are simple. DOn't know if they do tricky optimizing.

If you want this, you should look at the portable Forth that one 
of the authors did

No, but you can replace it with a x86-compiler. bigforth has one.

Anyway, it's full of forth source so that could be useful if someone 
else ports another forth over.

but then bigforth has everything else too, and a swapdragon.

So, Volker is volunterring to port BigForth ?

Replacing it with an X86 compiler would mean rewriting it. And then 
you have a new compiler that can't be ported when we port Syllable 
to some other architecture

This is one of the things where Syllable is generally much more modern 
than AmigaOS. It's all portable C and C++. There are just a few very 
small fragments of assembler code in Syllable

forth-compilers are not that complex, mostly "look word up, copy 
some bytes". Except of the professional ones which do register-optimizing 
and tricks.

I ported FigForth to the c/Plus4 but I had the fig assembler source.

the forth interpreter is tiny ...

fig yes. and every compiler-bit can be reused in the application 
as a menu-system :)

well, Phil Burk did release his portable forth with source ... so 
that's the way to go I guess.
http://www.softsynth.com/pforth/

Been ported to BeOS.

Yup, that's a good indicator for Syllable

for those that need a LHA decompressor ... http://www.nonags.com/nonags/ziputil.html

pfe has a tcp/ip-lib. pforth too?

pfe is commercial.

http://pfe.sourceforge.net/lgpl.