World: r3wp

Now that View 1.3 is out, does anyone know what the roadmap is ? 
 I would have thought it would be easiest to first release the SDK, 
then LNS, then IOS which may rely on LNS, and then OSX View?  Anyone 
got a better path?

Does anyone knows what the new build http://www.rebol.net/builds/031/rebview1300031a.exe
is?

The following used to work with View 1.2:


 view a: layout [btn 200x200 [view/new/options layout [btn 100x100] 
 reduce ['parent a]]]

but no longer works under 1.3. A bug?

What do you see that's different?

Click button to open 2nd window then click somewhere on the first 
window. With 1.2 the 2nd window correctly stays in the foreground, 
with 1.3 the first window comes to the foreground.

the betas act like 1.3

Looks like the change in behaviour occurred about April 2004

1.2.40.3.1 works as previous 1.2 versions, and 1.2.46.3.1 has the 
current behaviour.

Related to this, alerts used to remain at the front, and now they 
can be hidden by the parent window.

ashley: i think it's a bug. not sure if it's in rambo though.

1.3.0a is a test release. fixes a number of bugs (one important security 
bug in particular). if no new bugs are found there, it will be released 
as 1.3.1.

is there a list of bugs?

rambo. ;)

I was happy to see "request-dir" as I was updating a 6-year old tool 
that I use off and on. I was wondering if, for sake of continuity, 
there is a "windows" gui for this?

Ashley, I submitted it to Rambo.

Paul: Would  using a timer work for you? .. or launch the process 
in a new window. which probably isn't desirable.

Here is a simple e.g of using rate. (I'm sure you've already thought 
of this)
forever-block: [
	print now/precise
]

View layout [
	tm: led :forever-block
	area "so you test editing while process is running"

 t: tog "Start Process" "Stop Process" [either (face/text = "Start 
 Process") [tm/rate: 0:00:00] [tm/rate: none] show tm]
	"Stop Process" [tm/rate: 0 show tm]
]

:Woops: cut and paste some redundant bits
forever-block: [
	print now/precise
]

View layout [
	tm: led :forever-block
	area "so you test editing while process is running"

 tog "Start Process" "Stop Process" [either (face/text = "Start Process") 
 [tm/rate: 0:00:00] [tm/rate: none] show tm]
]

It states in link http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes-view.html, that 
a new modal system is used in 1.3 and will be developed further. 
 Maybe you need to specify now that the child window needs to stay 
infront?

I think it's a bug as an alert should stay in front, and they don't 
now.

Did anyone notice View/Desktop > Rebol > Tools > Roam  ?   An Animonitor 
like tool.

Just got a message to update my View.

Hmm. I'm in some type of upgrade loop.

Glad I said not yet for the install  ;-)

Just worked for me. Did you actually run the installer of the new 
exe?

Hello folks... just checking in to see how that 1.3.1 is doing for 
you.

See alpha/beta page for info -- more details will be available when 
Gregg returns.

Carl, what about alerts?

You see... more than 1 man band now.

Alerts.... eg. above comment?

alerts, no longer stay on top of calling window

Well.... quite frankly, I think we still need some spit an polish 
on those modals. Yep.

So, it used to, but not now?  I'm surprised it ever did.

up till about March 2004 it did.

Then it changed.

Well, that's not good. Is it listed as a bug in RAMBO?

Carl, regarding no longer a one man band...

Anything to announce on the arrangement you have made with these 
members of the community?  Is it a permanent one or temporary, etc?

Just posted it this morning.

We live by RAMBO --- so if it's not there, it's not likely to be 
fixed.

I hear the dinner bell....

By the way... to see you up for air ;-)

I don't.

Before you eat .. when can we see a new SDK?

So... will check back again after dinner....

Parts of the SDK are being posted. More very soon.

BB in a while. Bye!

Great news there.

Is the source for the Rebol text editor available anywhere?

The basic one in Rebol/View Desktop, that is.

for an older version in the published desktop-source.

and you can get the source from console. dont run the editor before, 
save %edi.r ctx-edit IIRC.