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ChristianE 12-Jun-2005 [1379] | Yes, Petr, if you use VID correctly, you setup your UI *once*, and this must done either way. That's why today's apps often have a long load time and entertain the user with a splash screen. |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1380x2] | I think I will file a bug - that is not normal, or I just don't wish it would be normal - Rebol really can't block system buttons during its internal activity. That is weird, imo wrong and annoying. |
the same goes for resizing - it redraws screen only when you finish resizing your window - no other app does that ... | |
Rebolek 13-Jun-2005 [1382] | but resizing when moving should be very slow with complex GUIs |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1383x4] | dunno - I just state what I find. Others do it ... |
resizing issue is rather cosmetic to me, but that "blocked" UI is really annoying ... Rebol shold be more async ... | |
btw - at home I have 4 icons on the left desktop side, here at work only 3 - rebol.com, local and console. How is that? IIRC the fourt one is Public. Maybe it is because I set my public files to c:\rebol\view and not specif user account? | |
another cosmetic issue - I was offered to update when I ran older alpha and it used old buttons, whereas whole Desktop uses btns ... | |
Rebolek 13-Jun-2005 [1387] | tools/font lab uses old buttons too... |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1388x3] | that is tool, but I talk about Desktop functionality. It offers you auto-update dialog. btw - it should ask if rebol should check for new updates imo - settings in preferences panel ... |
try Rebcircle demo ... then press mouse button and move, to generate more events - 10x faster :-) | |
... while Cyphre demo, using the same principle, nearly stops .... strange ... | |
Rebolek 13-Jun-2005 [1391] | no, that's not the same principle, in Cyphre demo I used "engage: func [f a e][switch a [time [something]]]....." so it renders ONLY when time-event comes, in Rebcircle is "engage: func [f a e][something]...." so new image is rendered on every event. |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1392] | thanks for explanation. I tried to add rate field, but it changed nothing ... |
Rebolek 13-Jun-2005 [1393] | there's "to image!" and it's 600x600 pixels so I think it's REBOL redraw speed limitation... |
DideC 13-Jun-2005 [1394] | Pekr: for different bookmark icon (left bar in desktop), there is a "Reset bookmark" script in the Rebol.com/tools folder. See Carl advice in the note of this release http://www.rebol.net/notes/rv13-changes.html#section-3 |
[unknown: 5] 13-Jun-2005 [1395] | Now that we have 1.3 - any idea on when we get the SDK and Command builds? |
JaimeVargas 13-Jun-2005 [1396] | Soon. |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1397] | I wonder if IOS will be regenerated for customers too? |
JaimeVargas 13-Jun-2005 [1398] | Soon again. |
yeksoon 13-Jun-2005 [1399] | OS X!! |
Pekr 13-Jun-2005 [1400x5] | cool! I was afraid I will have to use old knowledge for IOS ..... |
New Qt - the stole our originally planned design for buttons - http://qt4.digitalfanatics.org/articles/images/rc1/qtrc-3.png | |
the ones made by Chris were really nice (nicer than current XPish ones) | |
http://qt4.digitalfanatics.org/articles/rc1.html | |
AGG based app - nice :-) http://www.epsitec.ch/cresus/documents/base-f.php | |
Chris 13-Jun-2005 [1405] | Including the interface? |
Henrik 13-Jun-2005 [1406] | I was wondering about that color palette in the right lower corner. That would be pretty easy to do in Rebol now instead of this primitive RGB slider thing, wouldn't it? |
Pekr 14-Jun-2005 [1407] | Back in the pre 1.3 beta, we have got async kernel inside REBOL for a while. I would like to ask, if it solved open/skip, open/seek features, so that projects like RebDB could proceed? Thanks .... |
JaimeVargas 14-Jun-2005 [1408x2] | If I am correct open/skip was solved for 1.3 |
But I will test this first to be sure. | |
Gabriele 14-Jun-2005 [1410] | petr: the /seek refinement requires the new ports of the /async kernel, so it wasn't possible to port it back to the old kernel easily. |
Pekr 14-Jun-2005 [1411] | I know Gabriele - my question was, if async kernel allowed open/seek already? |
Henrik 14-Jun-2005 [1412] | is it possible to have a transparent backdrop in a pane? I'm creating a box with some interactive elements in its pane, and I want to see what's under the box |
Vincent 14-Jun-2005 [1413x2] | face/color: none |
none mean transparent for View | |
Henrik 14-Jun-2005 [1415] | it works! thank you :-) |
Gabriele 14-Jun-2005 [1416] | petr: yes, it does. a /seek port operates differently from a /direct port. you can try it out on any beta with the async core (i.e. view 1.2.57) |
Graham 15-Jun-2005 [1417x2] | I notice the new view 1.3 request function now allows the keyboard to select an answer. So, for an alert, a space bar is enough. how can I get the same functionality with the sdk? |
Another easy question, I have a login screen that starts off with view center-face loginscreen How do I make it so that the userid field has focus? At present I have to use the mouse to activate the userid field before I can type. | |
Ashley 15-Jun-2005 [1419] | f: field do [focus f] |
Graham 15-Jun-2005 [1420] | Thanks. |
Gregg 15-Jun-2005 [1421] | REQUEST is a mezzanine, so you can SOURCE it and patch it into your code. |
Brock 15-Jun-2005 [1422x2] | Was just exploring the REBOL/Desktop and ran into a summary document of changes for 1.3. Don't recall seeing this referenced from other sources... http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes-view.html |
Of note, section 2.6 Revised Image Datatype.... http://www.rebol.com/docs/image.html | |
Graham 16-Jun-2005 [1424x2] | Gregg, that was the first thing I tried. |
I thought I'd ask here in case someone knew before I delved further into it. | |
Ashley 16-Jun-2005 [1426] | Thanks Brock, I missed than one. ;) |
[unknown: 5] 16-Jun-2005 [1427] | Anyone know if there is any updates to the new /view such that we can activate a button and run a forever loop and still not inhibit view events? I don't want to have to use a wait command if I can help it. |
Izkata 16-Jun-2005 [1428] | I can't think of anything, but would wait really be that much of a hinderance? Especially since even wait .0001 works. |
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