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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5464] | Do we have a contingency plan if this world goes down? |
Dockimbel 16-Feb-2012 [5465] | #rebol on freenode ;-) |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5466] | No history on freenode |
Gregg 16-Feb-2012 [5467] | I can look at hosting a world. |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5468] | Can setup a server also on EC2 |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5469] | Dunno if another world would help the situation any. The world name server is presumably also at risk |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5470] | That's not operated by Carl, at least, no? |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5471] | Ah...I forgot that Carl runs Altme now |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5472] | If not Carl, then who? |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5473] | Reichart used to own safeworlds.... but i thought it got taken over by Carl ?? |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5474x2] | There's no additional personnel involved? |
I thought the AltME core servers are still operated by a another entity ... | |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5476] | The name server was supposed to be distributed over the world, but once when it was down it turned out that it runs on one DSL line |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5477x3] | Not privy to this information so speculation |
as I recall .... Reichart used to host the servers ... but that changed | |
So, we do have a single point of failure here...and no recovery plan | |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5480] | Yup |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5481] | Are there no paying customers for AltME left? |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5482] | Were there ever? |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5483x2] | There may well be but does that change things? |
We've been bitten by closed source Rebol and we rely on closed source altme :( | |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5485] | Kaj: no idea. |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5486] | Yup again |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5487x2] | IRC lacks a good history |
and threads | |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5489] | AltME "customers" would make a difference in the kind of pressure exerted when the name server goes down vs when "just" the REBOL3 world goes down. |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5490] | We are paying customers for SDk ... but have no special access |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5491] | Do you know of anyone who has been able to pressure RT? |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5492x2] | Personally, no. |
But I got the impression that the last R2 release (2.7.8 in Jan 2011) was due to such external pressure. | |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5494] | Yes, Jaime was able once upon a time |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5495] | Better call him back, then :-) |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5496] | no callbacks |
Andreas 16-Feb-2012 [5497] | Finding one of the supposed "source escrow" customers would also be a worthy thing :) |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5498] | Anyone have a proposal for a backup plan ...?? |
Kaj 16-Feb-2012 [5499] | The option was said to be available. Doesn't mean anyone took it |
GrahamC 16-Feb-2012 [5500x3] | We could ask AMD ...they used iOS at one stage |
Anyway something to think about .... | |
Guess Qtask is an alternative but also closed source | |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [5503] | http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?lookup=rebol4 To get the WNS to refresh, the world must be started from the GUI, not via the CLI. |
Tomc 8-Mar-2012 [5504x3] | altme seems to be blackion out |
blacking | |
too much wine | |
GiuseppeC 13-Mar-2012 [5507] | Where are you ? I have read about REBOL4 world. Who I should ask for an access ? |
Pekr 14-Mar-2012 [5508x2] | Giuseppe - yes, we have moved, as this world went down, and was down fore few days, with no sign, when it will be back online ... |
Today the whole altme.com DNS server went down, so all Altme worlds around the globe went down (not exactly like that, but close) | |
GiuseppeC 14-Mar-2012 [5510] | Pekr, how do I enter Rebol4 ? |
Pekr 14-Mar-2012 [5511x3] | I asked Henrik to provide you with the account |
In fact - he took last 100 ppl logging here or so, and sent them an invite. | |
Do you have actual email addresshere? | |
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