World: r3wp

Sunanada...agreed...

I already suggested it directly to Carl in the past, and he agreed. 
Small note of how to join would be sufficient. One really has to 
wonder, why such simple thing was not sorted out ...

One other possibility......We could have a "request membership" form 
on REBOL.org.
That'd explain the need to download the client from Altme.com.

And it'd send an email to an Admin requesting the person be let in.


So all we need is an Admin who is willing to be the recipient of 
that email.
Any takers?

I might be the one, but I think that it as well should be the person 
able to set-up account here?

If noone picks-up, then take my email adress (will not post here 
- web public group). I then can post requests into Accounts group 
...

How is the world lookup working in detail in AltME. I'm asking, because 
I have a problem at work, where they run behind a firewall, and they 
use a ip-range from the outside into the firewall.


My guess is, that the AltME client ask the World Name server, where 
a certain world is located, and the server respond with a IP-number. 
So when a world is created, the world name is stored at the name 
server together with the IP number. And the IP number is read in 
the messages sent over the network. So for me to tell the network 
manager at work, what ports for what IP numbers to open in the firewall, 
I could call a site like
http://www.myip.dk/

with a browser from the server, where the AltME world is created. 
And this should be the IP number, for which the ports (5400-5409) 
should be open for incoming trafic.

Is this correct?

AltME feature request.  Include the date/time as a second column 
a group was last updated.  Since we don't have the ability to synch 
what was read between each instance of AltME that we read, having 
the last date/time listed we could quickly select through the groups 
we have already visited in a previous session on another machine. 
 Although synching what was last accessed would be the ultimate fix. 
:-)

Thank's Petr.....I'll PM you some details.

I can also take account requests via email, but am also happy to 
share the wealth and let Petr do that if he wants. :-)

Please remember to post your suggestions in AltME feedback, that 
way it gets logged, thanks.

Reichart, done.

I currently have AltME configured to show 1000 posts and when I go 
to the !QM group then I see a serious of posts from user "none" it 
is clear that this user is actually Reichart and all posts he made 
to that group prior to 21-Apr-07 4:31 PM show up as being posted 
as "none"  Does anyone else see this?

Remember that R left this world .. and so all his posts became none. 
 He rejoined under the same nick.

Ah, right.

Wonder why he didn't rejoin as Reichart2 ....

LOL

:)

A suggestion for handling group  termination would be to have an 
option for a group to be retired and then it goes into like a suspend 
status where it can't be read but remains listed in a greyed out 
manner and if someone decides to restore it before the expiration 
period then it becomes restored.  If someone wants to retire it again 
it goes through the same process.  Another thing is to make OPT out 
groups persistent.

Correction it CANT be read in a suspend status but remains listed 
but greyed out.

Now another thing would be to make OPT outs persistent so that if 
someone recreates a group with the same name again later that the 
person is automatically opted out.

Yup...

Qtask has a "Hide project" concept like this.

The persistent opt out sounds good, but hard to support well.

support inline images , I communicate a bit with some senior citizens 
who *really* like to send images of everything they are building, 
if altme could perhaps have inline thumbnails linked to full images 
stored in the shared folder I could try to move them off email.

...

Was it just me, or did this world and most of REBOL.net have an outage 
for the last few hours?

I found that too. Does rebol.net host altme r3 world?

Thanks.
They share an IP address, so I guess that means it does.

I saw downtime too.

i have problems, Altme is trying to load things but is disconnected 
before it's finished so that it enter in a enternal loop, trying 
to reload same things each times.

Odd.  Worse case, just reinstall.

i wonder why disconnections discard all changes. Missing some atomicity 
in updates here.

If the whole loaded things  is not commited at once then it's trying 
to redo again and again.
what a mess...

Sometimes one person sees something no one else sees.  When that 
happens, we have to start local and work our way out.

Given that AltME has not changed, and no one else is seeing this 
problem, we need to consider that something odd happened on your 
system, right?

it's not the first time people described this syndrom.

Saying it never happened before so it doesn't come from Altme, he's 
a special way to resolve (or not) bugs.

First, I did not say it never happened before, I said no one else 
is seeing this problem.

Second, if you are going to argue with my logic, I'll just shut up...

Sunanda: the server was upgraded to 1GB ram. (This was not planned. 
Richard was unable to connect to it, so he went to restart the server, 
and decided to take the chance to upgrade the ram. When he got there, 
he noticed the server was not really down, but he decided to upgrade 
it anyway.)

who needs more than 640KB RAM?
 - Bill Gates :-)

Thanks for the explanation, Gabriele.

I thought Bill Gates said 64kB of RAM.

he didn't say either. it's a mis-quote, or so he says himself.

I was just looking it up and it looks like at the least Pekr was 
correct that it was a reference to 640KB or RAM whether a misquote 
or not.  ;-)

For those who like stats:


110 different people made just over 35,000 posts on this world in 
2008. That's nearly five meg of raw text communication.

Is that growth or shrinkage?

Well, for 2007, we also had 110 active posters, and they made nearly 
45,000 posts. So that's shrinkage in volume, and no growth in population.

Other worlds (which have specialised in R3 development and testing) 
have more than taken up the slack in volumes. I don't have numbers 
for all of them, because I am  not a member of them all.

Small print: I can only count the posts I can see.

The totals include the private groups which I am a member, but not 
those for which I am not.

The totals do not count any private messaging between myself and 
other world members.

ask for a account  for r3-alpha thanks

Is it possible to serve more than one world on the same computer?

I tried and got a "server is already running" message.

I got it to work on a different port.

On windows you do not seem to need to declare the port like on linux.
Windows opens multiple worlds from the gui

Just beware, if you open the worlds in a different order, they will 
use the first available port, so for example if the first world you 
created isn't running, and you start the second world you created, 
the second world will look for the first port, however, the world 
server knows it should have been assigned to the second port.  (excuse 
me not using the port numbers to avoid confusion, but I couldn't 
recall if the first port was 5000, or 5500).  If the server isn't 
using the port is was created on, it won't be recognized by the world 
server.

IN short, order matters, and your servers won't open if they don't 
open with the right port being available.

I going to be serving on a linux box and it seems you can just assign 
the port at start up.
altme -s "world name" -p 5401

Now trying to autostart at boot time but having a trouble...

su -lc '/.../altserve -s world -p port &' user > /dev/null

according ot altme guide
does not seem to launching...

I know the example is for altmeserve but I thought it would work 
for client as well

sorry, my issue was with re-creating a world.  I had multiple worlds 
hosted on the same machine at one time and I cheaped out and didn't 
register the world for $10 US per world.  When the worlds expired 
after 10 days of no usage (which never happened, but they expried 
anyway), I had to recreate the worlds, the order was important in 
that scenario.  Sorry for misleading you.