World: r3wp

Ashley, LOL, this is why I have never seen this either...
OK, whom ever, please report in Feedback...

I walked away from this PC about 24 hrs ago after posting a note; 
I returned to find the browser very sluggishl taskmgr showed altme 
consuming 90+ % of CPU; I had no screen saver set.  I killed the 
process.  One of the last things I recall doing in altme was clicking 
on an http  link ( whihc was why I found IE7 running slow ...  I 
use Firefox generally from an icon or the start  menubut leave IE7 
as the default browser

Robert, thank you for donating your computer to our server farm while 
you were away…

JK

Any chance of getting an ALTME version that support MS proxy authentication. 
 I know that DOC Kimbel has a proxy authentication that works on 
large enterprise environments.  If it can work, I will go to EDS 
and see if they would support purchasing ALTME as a collaboration 
solution.

We currently have a need for such a tool but it would have to support 
msproxy authentication because EDS personnel work from many client 
sites as well.

I experienced proxy problem too last week, when I tried to connect 
at meeting room at our dislocated company location. I needed go via 
the proxy. Dunno if AltME supports proxy at all?

It supposed to support socks proxy but MS proxy requires either Kerberos 
authentication (the current standard) or NT LAN Manager authentication. 
 Doc's implementation does the NT LAN Man authentication.  Which 
if ALTME does that it means support for older windows systems as 
well since older ones don't support kerberos.

Is there a way to have AltME not block when it is downloading a message? 
I am getting tired of having AltME lock up on me when I am typing 
- it has interfered with my conversations quite often today.

Does the buffer size make a difference?

Message size limit in Altme?

I don't think so. Even one line messages have been blocking me for 
30 seconds or more.

It might be a factor that I am connected to the internet through 
Comcast.

My message size is set at 1000.  Seems when I go 10000 or more it 
gets a bit slow

Mine is set at 1000 too. Let me be clear here: I get the slowdown 
whenever AltME retrieves a message, even if I didn't write the message. 
Today, the messages have mostly been from Paul :)

Do an test of your bandwidth at speakeasy.net or something.

The bandwidth is fine - it's an architectural bug. AltME shouldn't 
block on retrieval at all. Any blocking should happen after the message 
has been retrieved, just long enough to post the message to the GUI, 
no more than a millisecond.

I have had some delays also but doesn't sound as bad as yours.  So 
i wonder why someone would have less delay than someone else - maybe 
that is where the focus of the problem shoudl be.

I would think that Comcast is up to its old tricks, but I've seen 
this problem elsewhere too - same computer, different line.

altme has always been blocking in this respect

When I closed AltMe a few seconds ago I got this error message: "Server 
reported error in unknown-request because of: Ôtatus"

Im was wondering, does Altme Linux/Debian need more specific testing 
to get out of Beta stage? If you need more Linux testing drop me 
a note.

We need more testing.  Although the recent blog entry may change 
things a little we need lots of grunt test case wrting.   They are 
built around a test engine that loads the cases, so these are not 
standalone scripts.

decimals: [
	[ 15 == system/options/decimal-digits]

	[0.25 == (-2 ** -2)]


 [(to decimal! #{4000 0000 0000 0001}) < (to decimal! #{4000 0000 
 0000 0002})]
	["1.79769313486232E+308" == mold 1.7976931348623157E+308]
	["1.79769313486232E+308" == mold (2 - (2 ** -52)) * (2 ** 1023)]
	["2.2250738585072E-308" == mold 2 ** -1022]

	[error? try [1.7976931348623157E+308 + 0.0000000000000001E+308]]


 ["2.2250738585072E-308" == mold to decimal! #{0010 0000 0000 0000}]

 ["2.2250738585072E-308" == mold to decimal! #{000F FFFF FFFF FFFF}]
	["2.2250738585072E-308" == mold (1 - (2 ** -52)) * (2 ** -1022)]

 ["4.94065645841247E-324" == mold to decimal! #{0000 0000 0000 0001}]
	["-4.94065645841247E-324" == mold -2 ** -1074]

	[0.0 == to decimal! #{0000 0000 0000 0000}]
	[0.0 == to decimal! #{8000 0000 0000 0000}]
	[error? try [to decimal! #{7FF0 0000 0000 0000}]]
	[error? try [to decimal! #{FFF0 0000 0000 0000}]]
	[error? try [to decimal! #{7FFF FFFF FFFF FFFF}]]
]

So
name: [
   [block of code expected to return truth]
   [next small test]
]

Sorry, didn't notice the forum, moving to !REBOL3

LOL

I am getting an error after 1) download altme to new PC; accept updates; 
 enter Rebol3 world;

I am getting an error installing altme

I am getting an error on new altme installs on Windows XP on PC's 
which have not had a prior install; install, accept updates (some 
13 files are offered for downl0ad - I think after entering Rebol3 
world ... at which point altme dies with a warning that cannot write 
to track directory as it may not exist; restart of altme then proceeds 
fine;

As you can see, I was having trouble as this new install populated 
lists: any time that I hit the enter key the post vanished but the 
list would not refresh by just going to another topic and returning 
to this altme topic.  Hence the 3 stutters in trying to report what 
may be a known issue as I was not sure if my post was in limbo or 
lost in the ethereal bit bucket

Always report errors to AltME feedback, that way they are in the 
ticketing system.

This group is best used to talk concepts...

ah .. under HELP.   done

Cool, thanks.  Every report is filed, catalogued, grouped in a folder, 
placed in a bank box, collected in a wood crate, and placed along 
with thousands of similar crates….er, or, that was Raiders of the 
Lost Arc….ignore me…

.. and eventually.. one day... brave explorers will come and discover 
the secrets of the ancients..

I am unable to select text at the end part of the long post RobertS 
posted in core group
This happens somewhere around the line

---Paste from clipboard


Does anyone else have this problem? (I'm on Altme 1.1.29, Ubuntu 
7.10)

Yes, the last lines, I can select, are:

        lab: label para [origin: 2x3 margin: 0x2]
        labe: lab edge [size: 1x1 color: water effect: 'ibeve

Under OS X.

I can't either.  Two work-arounds, assuminng you want to capture 
and save the post:


1. cut'n'paste it from the HTML archive -- though this may lose you 
some formatting and/or indenting:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp157x10054

2. copy it out of the Altme Chat record:

change-dir %[...your path...]/altme/worlds/rebol3/chat
core-chat: reduce load/all %157.set
text: last core-chat/10055

works here on XP Pro/Altme 1.2.15

Thanks Sunanda, how do you know about number 2?

I wrote the code that published the Altme archive on REBOL.org -- 
so I had to reverse engineer the Altme data structures.

ahh, I see. So it's nothing for the faint of heart ;-)

Yeah, a whole three lines of code.

I'm not talking about these 3 lines for this exact problem, but about 
understanding enough to find the same info for another post ...
Of course, this may be equally easy.

: ) (I know), but it is cool that such a thing can be done with so 
little code because of a) REBOL b) the format AltME files are stored 
in.

Where AltME is terribly wrong (or I am terribly stupid):

Today I tried to run start two altme servers. I want to try to get 
some guys hooked. I would like to state, that I am semi experienced 
(still not guru) networking guy, and I do run wi-fi network with 
30+ routers for 420 customers, so not novice.

So what do I think AltME id doing wrong, or at least not making life 
to admins easy? There is no problem for me to to open ports on FW. 
This is not about opening ports only, but precisely speaking it is 
about setting DST-NAT to your target PC on internal network:


1) AltME records your internal IP adress when setting up your world. 
Don't even try to run it on different PC in your internal network. 
Even if you have all ports OK, this one thing will ruin all your 
efforts. Dunno if it adds to any kind of security, but in my eyes 
it is completly unnecessary obstacle. But maybe it is usefull when 
running altme servers fully on your local network, so that AltME 
"DNS" can direct your local clients to correct internal altme server. 
I can live easily with this one, but ...


2) Today I created new world. No matter how you try, it always registers 
AltME world on port 5400. There is no ability to set it differently.


3) Even if you start altme -s "my-world" -p 5401, it will not help 
you, and it still opens the world on port 5400 (at least that is 
what I saw with netstat -an), which is imo a bug


4) even if you change \servers\my-world\info, still no luck. When 
you go to http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgiand you type-in 
your world name, you still can see, that AltME.com has registered 
5400 port, but not e.g. 5401


5) even if you run your altme -s "my-world" -p 5401, and even if 
you send your client to 5401 port by changing \worlds\my-world\config.txt, 
you still has no lack. It is apparent, that no matter how your client 
is instructed, it takes info from altme.com for granted, and overrides 
your local settings, which can be proven by 6)


6) Running two worlds - my-world on 5400 and my-world1 on 5401 (names 
obfuscated here), I found out, that Altme client does not care of 
Altme server name at all. That can be proven by typing my-world1 
and using account from my-world, you are succesfully logged in to 
my-world, instead of my-world1, as client obtains port 5400 instead 
of 5401


I have one and only one question - how can I change my world port 
number on altme.com, or in other worlds - how do I REGISTER world 
on different than 5400 port? :-)

Thanks eventually and sorry, if I miss some important steps, but 
I tried to follow docs, which should be sufficient enough me thinks 
:-)

in 5) lack = luck