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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Edgar 21-Dec-2007 [2680] | I meant clicking custom gives you more choices. |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2681] | I have also edited file extensions for .url, .mhtml, .mhtm, and registered those with FF too ... still no luck from AltME :-) What function does AltME use? Just REBOL's 'browse? |
Edgar 21-Dec-2007 [2682] | We must be seeing something different. I get the option for changing the different extension if I pick the second option. I think I will post an image later. I am not in my Vista computer at this time. |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2683] | OK, done, thanks a lot! I never saw clicking radio button brings you to new screen, gee, what is that? :-) |
Edgar 21-Dec-2007 [2684] | Ok good you found it. Make sure you close AltMe then open it again for it to work. |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2685] | I clicked Custom, then FireFox - there are three options in there - Use recent browser, IE, FF .... even if FF is "default browser" for my OS, I had to specifically click it here, and now AltME opens FF finally! Strange thing is, that when I now return back to the same menu, once again Use recent browser is selected, but FF is now used .... |
Edgar 21-Dec-2007 [2686x2] | Yep, I see that too. Did I mentioned I hate Vista? |
If my work is not in computer developments, I would replace it with XP already. | |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2688x2] | I hate Vista too! There are two camps of users - those who can see advantages (I can see them too, in security mainly), and those who can see it as waste of 1.5 billion of USD. I am part of the latter camp - absolutly useless effort imo .... |
I have no better experience, just worse one. I would like to meet the idiot, who designed user access to network layer. There is so many intermediate screens it is not funny anymore. | |
Reichart 21-Dec-2007 [2690] | - I am kind of experience user, don't worry. I don't worry. However, what I do is treat all people and problems the same way, which is not to make any assumptions. Sadly this method often conflicts with ego. Edgar, gee, can't you read? Interesting to read someone else trying to help you, you snapping back, and then realizing that it was in fact you who was not reading… As I said, I try to not make any assumptions. Perhaps some energy spent on appreciated those trying to help you would go a long way… |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2691x2] | Reichart - ego or not, I am more than experienced user, if not more, or I would not be where I am. (Well, otoh even chief of IT could be moron, so maybe you are right :-) |
Edgaer pointed me two times to the same link. Reading thru all the text twice, it does not answer any question. The link rather stupidly suggests to users, that you have to be admin etc etc. and more or less describes, how to change default program. Did that, xy times. Did that for each one possible file suffix. Once again - file system worked all fine, it is just AltME, having problems. | |
Reichart 21-Dec-2007 [2693] | I'll correct for the future... |
Pekr 21-Dec-2007 [2694x4] | Actually, what I found out, was not user's error at all ... |
The part I am not good at I admitted - the possible cause being Active Directory policy, which could override even my admin local settings, if I am connected to domain. | |
And that is where I am easily able to correct myself ... we have xy users with Vista already here, noone having the same problem .... | |
I can write down the case and provide it as a FAQ entry ... but if it does not affect any other user, it might be worthless ... | |
Sunanda 26-Dec-2007 [2698] | There is no simple, obvious, method of joining this world.... ....If you discover it via the REBOL.net archive, there is no info at all about joining http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/ ....If you find it via the REBOL.org archive, there is a note in the Help page about requesting membership via the Mailing List.....So first, you got to join the ML and it has to be working that day :-( Let's come up with something better guys! My opening suggestion.....membership can be requested by sending an email to a specific gmail account that the Admins here monitor. |
Henrik 26-Dec-2007 [2699] | well, I'll write a blog entry about it |
Reichart 26-Dec-2007 [2700] | Given the trouble with the Mailing list as well (feedback), what about simply moving everything over to Gmail Groups? All these problems have been solved by them already. It has IMAP access, so you can still do ML archives. And it is all free. There are a few things about Gmail Groups I don't like (but I suspect all ML have the same problems), I simply don't like Email in the first place, so I'm biased. I think a big move to Gmail would have many positive aspects: - Feedback problem is gone, since you can have multiple moderators that can check. - We have a centralized location for requests to AltME - We can make it public already, so you may be able to avoid some of the tools you have been using to do this. - We are working "with" other systems, as opposed to "invented here" - There are other services Gmail offers that might enhance the experience. |
Gregg 26-Dec-2007 [2701] | There is a REBOL Google group, but it doesn't see much use: http://groups.google.com/group/rebol |
BrianH 26-Dec-2007 [2702] | I've been noticing AltMe freezing when retrieving a message - when done, it goes back to normal. Is this a network latency or speed problem, or something else? |
Reichart 26-Dec-2007 [2703x2] | Perhaps it does not see much use because we are fractured. If we all jumped on one, we would become focuses? |
Freezing...hmmm. Don't know. I don't see this (much) | |
Sunanda 26-Dec-2007 [2705] | I see it quite often, Brian. |
Reichart 26-Dec-2007 [2706x2] | Please send to Feedback. |
focused | |
Graham 26-Dec-2007 [2708x2] | I never see it. |
Still see the password bug occasionally though. | |
BrianH 26-Dec-2007 [2710] | Perhaps your internet connection is better than mine, Graham. I usually use AltMe from other people's internet connections. |
Graham 26-Dec-2007 [2711x2] | OPI |
I"m supposed to have a 10mbs connection | |
BrianH 26-Dec-2007 [2713x2] | It seems to me that the process of retrieving a message is blocking, or otherwise synchronous. On a crappy connection that process may have to do some retransmits, or may be slowed down for other reasons. The solution is to make the retrieval of a message asynchronous, and then just sync during the local update once the message is retrieved. |
It happens more often when I have more than one world up. | |
Graham 26-Dec-2007 [2715x2] | I think it must be blocking as when I'm typing and a message is being downloaded, I have always noticed that keyboard input is slower. |
The synapse chat client was completely async as it used Beer. | |
Henrik 27-Dec-2007 [2717] | Before I make an ass of myself on my blog for the umpteenth time: Who can new people contact to sign up for AltME? |
Gregg 27-Dec-2007 [2718x2] | I'm a world master here. Might be good to have another one who is around a lot though. Reichart is back, and he usually takes care of things pretty quickly when he's around. |
Just don't get me harvested. :-) | |
Reichart 27-Dec-2007 [2720] | Yes, I serve as back up for Gregg. Henrik, if you are asking "who can people contact" as in send an Email, I don't know... this is why I want to unify the REBOL ML on Google Groups. Then someone can post in the ML, and anyone who happens to see it can post it here. The option is the way we do it now, which is if someone contacts anyone already in here, they tell us in Accounts, and we create an account because that person is vouching for them. Does that answer your question? |
Henrik 27-Dec-2007 [2721] | Reichart, I guess it does. I just wanted to make a small guide on my blog to how to get in here as quickly and as painlessly as possible and who is reliable to contact about that. Currently the ML seems to be the main way in, while other post on reboltalk.com. |
Reichart 27-Dec-2007 [2722x2] | See.........now as scary as this might seem, I did not even know about RebolTalk.com! |
In fact, this exchange should be on the front page of RebolTalk.com : ) http://www.reboltalk.com/forum/index.php/topic,278.msg937.html#msg937 | |
Henrik 28-Dec-2007 [2724x2] | amazing |
more reason for my blog post, I guess | |
Anton 30-Dec-2007 [2726] | I propose: checklists to appear in the same list as users and groups. Then they can be sorted by most recently modified, turn red and be noticed. *Then* the "Links" group could become a checklist, avoiding chat. or The "Links" group could be automatically scraped and the links put into a "Links" checklist. |
BrianH 3-Jan-2008 [2727] | When you post an alert to a private group, does it go to all members of the world or just that group? |
Reichart 3-Jan-2008 [2728] | Group. |
Chris 8-Jan-2008 [2729] | Suggestion: ctrl-click on a message equivalent to right-click. For one-button 'mouse' users (ie. Mac) |
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