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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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[unknown: 9] 17-May-2006 [1533x3] | For the future, just type "AltME shortcuts" into google. |
Then bitch at us for not updating it : ) | |
Which you can do here: http://www.altme.com/feedback.html | |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [1536x2] | ha, nice website! |
such face-lift would not hurt for RT's site :-) | |
james_nak 18-May-2006 [1538] | Ah, you guys are on it! Thanks all. No complaining here, Reichart. |
[unknown: 9] 19-May-2006 [1539] | : ) |
Louis 23-May-2006 [1540] | I've been getting lots of these errors lately for some reason ( Never had this problem before): Invalid data type during recycle ** Press enter to quit... |
[unknown: 9] 23-May-2006 [1541] | That is what we call the "rebol" bug. |
Louis 23-May-2006 [1542] | I'm wondering if it might be cause by not enough ram? I've installed too many programs that leave drivers running in memory. |
[unknown: 9] 23-May-2006 [1543] | We see it randomly so far. |
Louis 25-May-2006 [1544x2] | I think it was caused by my setting message limit to 10000 per chat room so I could do some searching. |
I changed it back to 100 per chat room, and now the problem is gone. | |
[unknown: 9] 25-May-2006 [1546x2] | Cool! That is actually pretty solid info then. WE are going to simply cap to 100 except for single operations. In other words, you can search the past, but then return to 100. |
Thoughts? | |
Louis 25-May-2006 [1548] | Good idea. It happened because I forgot to change back after searching. ...didn't realize it for awhile. |
Geomol 25-May-2006 [1549] | Thoughts, yes. I'm not sure, if you read all history into mem!? If you set cap to 100, it may be a good idea to only load 100 posts into mem for each group. Searching should then be smart and search on disk, only loading those posts in, that's needed. |
Louis 25-May-2006 [1550] | Yes, it would be much better if a search could be done without the user having to change any settings. Otherwise most users will probably not do any searching at all. |
Tomc 25-May-2006 [1551] | I would also want a browse mode where i could broese all history --- and that 100 is pretty small 500 or 1000 should work. (and if they dont there is something else learned about the bug) but I am sure I have never run with less than 1000 lines of buffer and only rarely had the recycle bug and then most likely because of searching prompted me to increase my buffer and I would only decrease it if things got too sluggish |
Louis 25-May-2006 [1552] | My computer is really low on RAM, which might have something to do with this. |
BrianH 25-May-2006 [1553] | I have a lot of RAM, and I tend to leave the history at 500. Please allow the cap to be specified, and then have the whole of history available for search. |
Volker 26-May-2006 [1554] | How about loading stuff with a load/next loop? its a block of blocks, so that would work. and the loaded portions would be smaller. |
james_nak 26-May-2006 [1555] | I think it's related the RAM (or the lack thereof) as well. I normally see that when I've hit my limit and venture in virtual memory. |
Volker 26-May-2006 [1556] | I think its related to timing. A big operation takes to long. Using vmem takes even longer. |
Gabriele 27-May-2006 [1557] | on the detective the GC used to crash a lot when invoked while inside an awake function. i worked around it by deferring actions. i guess this is the same bug or very similar, and it should be fixed in view 1.3, so a new build of altme should fix it. |
Anton 27-May-2006 [1558] | Ok, so a large amount of data processing, the creation of a large block perhaps, or lots of small ones, could cause the GC to kick in to free some older data. |
james_nak 30-May-2006 [1559] | It may also have something to do with the after-effects of a full virus scan. |
Carl 1-Jun-2006 [1560x4] | New AltME release (must download, will not auto update to this): www.altme.com/download/altme-b1203.exe www.altme.com/download/altme-osx-b1203.tar.gz |
If you have bugs or minor enhancements (no majors accepted right now), be sure to report them using AltME feedback. We do not scan this chat group (sorry, not enough time!) | |
Current version is 1.2.3 | |
We can now add filesharing to this world, because 1.2.3 does not auto-load all files. | |
Geomol 1-Jun-2006 [1564] | Running 1.2.3 under OSX, and it seems to work ok. Who desides, if filesharing shall be opened? |
Carl 1-Jun-2006 [1565x2] | It is to be decided by the admin users of this world. |
I think they have all requested it. So as soon as people are upgraded to the new 1.2.3, we can turn it on. | |
Gabriele 1-Jun-2006 [1567] | note, that 1.2.3 most probably fixes the "recycle error" crashes many people have seen. if you used to get that problem, please try this new version and let us know if it still crashes. :) |
Volker 1-Jun-2006 [1568] | survived 1 start with 1000 messages. but never tried, may have worked before. now how to scroll precisely? :) |
Geomol 1-Jun-2006 [1569] | hehe URL's are recognized, so I can just click them. Very nice! |
james_nak 1-Jun-2006 [1570] | Thanks Carl, Reichart and SafeWorlds! |
BrianH 1-Jun-2006 [1571x3] | New version works for me, seems to do a better job with URLs. Cool! |
Nope, same problem with URLs. Example from Tech News: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/11/16/introducing-sparql-querying-semantic-web-tutorial.html | |
Note that the blue doesn't extend to the end of the link. | |
Brock 1-Jun-2006 [1574] | Wrapping still isn't quite right either. |
BrianH 1-Jun-2006 [1575] | At least it isn't crashing or anything like that. Not that it was before for me, but a lack of regressions is nice. |
Brock 1-Jun-2006 [1576] | Is the ability to open other Worlds in the top left corner new with 1.2.3? (I didn't try the latest releases) |
BrianH 1-Jun-2006 [1577] | It's new AFAIK - I noticed it right away. |
Brock 1-Jun-2006 [1578] | Just noticed the drop-down used for the World selector doesn't close unless you choose a world. And if you are already in that world, it reconnects. This could be handled better. |
BrianH 1-Jun-2006 [1579x2] | Yeah, I noticed that too. Perhaps clicking outside of the box could close the box without changes? |
As a suggestion I mean - it doesn't now. | |
Brock 1-Jun-2006 [1581x2] | I sent a feedback on the World selection drop-down usability. |
Hmm, after sending a second feedback, AltMe shut down on me after pressing "Return to World" | |
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