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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Henrik
12-May-2006
[1479]
that may be why I'm failing
Gordon
12-May-2006
[1480x2]
Thanks Reichart.

Turns out that you have to register the world name with safewords 
by providing a World Password.  This is something new in the last 
year.  I was using a registered and paid worldname before but very 
soon after paying the world quit working and I created  new worlds 
by appending numbers to the end of the worldname.  This worked for 
a year but now that my yearly membership has expired - the worldname 
with a number quit working as well.
Henrik;

  I use it for just three or four people to keep track of a to-do lists. 
   Has worked for us for a couple years, albeit with some problems 
  in keeping the world going.  The To-Do lists are very helpful.
Henrik
12-May-2006
[1482]
indeed they are. I use it myself alot, heck sometimes even when I'm 
just me in my private world. :-) it's still useful.
Brock
12-May-2006
[1483x2]
Gordon, try to simply re-register the world name ensuring that if 
the world was on port 5400 to not have any other AltME worlds running 
(server or client).  If you do this it will reregister that world 
to the closest available port (this would be 5400 in your case).
I have had a problem since hosting AltME worlds (and being cheap 
and not reserving the name).  However, the worlds are used every 
day, but they still drop.  I found the problem was more frequent 
when I had more worlds being hosted.  At one point I had three worlds 
up and it seemed all of my worlds would become un-registered at the 
same time as one of them having not been used for the 10 day period 
that will un-register them.
BrianW
12-May-2006
[1485]
I would love to set folks up here with Altme (and QTask for that 
matter), but it will take a while to sell them on it.
eFishAnt
12-May-2006
[1486]
I have a customer who is afraid to install AltME because they are 
afraid it is spyware.  Anyone have a good list made of promises or 
in the website is there some way to ally this fear?
Pekr
12-May-2006
[1487]
Reichart - AltME did not developed into open API framework, so I 
really can't see much differece to IRC e.g., whish is, client scriptable, 
provides security if needed, moderated discussions ...
[unknown: 9]
12-May-2006
[1488x3]
Steve....AltME is spyware...you simply have to be invited to spy. 
 the answer is,
http://www.altme.com/privacy.html
http://www.altme.com/rights.html
Graham
12-May-2006
[1491]
I always tell people to do a net search to see if a program is spyware.
[unknown: 9]
12-May-2006
[1492x3]
Can't get any better than that.
Graham, funny enough, that is what I just did.  I simply typed in 
"spyware AltME" and found my own page.
At the top.
Graham
12-May-2006
[1495]
I think that is far more reassuring than what a company says about 
itself.
[unknown: 9]
12-May-2006
[1496]
Agreed.
Henrik
13-May-2006
[1497]
another feature request: when people use background colors, make 
some kind of algorithm that would make it impossible for the text 
color and the background color collide. :-)
Graham
13-May-2006
[1498x3]
But that means yoyu won't have invible text!
perhaps an option to neutralise a colour combination by the reader?
Or, a hover mode that reveals the hidden text?
Volker
13-May-2006
[1501x2]
clicking on message normalizes color (untilgroup-change)?
maybe with a bigger border
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1503]
also not to make assumptions about what default fore/back colors 
should be.  paying attention to OS defaults can help there.
Henrik
14-May-2006
[1504]
scott, are you using a TFT display? the colors you use really strain 
my monitor.
Gabriele
14-May-2006
[1505]
Just click on the disable colors button ;)
[unknown: 9]
14-May-2006
[1506]
:)
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1507]
sweet, now if they were only the colors I'd want, instead of the 
white screen supremicists defaults
Gabriele
14-May-2006
[1508]
well, research says that black text on white bg is less dangerous 
for the eyes than white text on black bg (especially in a dark room)
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1509]
love to see a reference.  white is for paper to be.
Henrik
14-May-2006
[1510]
I think it's even more straining to the eyes to mix black on white 
and white on black texts in various areas of the screen.
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1511]
that's probably true.  altme stands out like a sore thumb on my screen. 
 All the other apps pretty much abide byt my defaults.
Henrik
14-May-2006
[1512]
well, then perhaps allow color configuration in AltME?
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1513x2]
I can stop posting in colors, actually.  I don't want to irritate 
anyone any further.  now that I've expressed my wishes for altme 
to not neutron-bomb my eyeballs, I'll swiitch it off.
nobody liked my last color scheme, either. . .  This one is closer 
to my windows default, though.   The last one was like old-school 
amber, and that is similar to my Textpad colors.
Graham
14-May-2006
[1515]
Hang on, was all these obscene colour schemes of yours some type 
of protest that all of us, who had no control over, were being subjected 
to?
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1516]
ooooh.  topic is nice.
Sunanda
14-May-2006
[1517]
There's a formula for chosing a readable forground/background color 
pair here:
http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/WebPageColors.html
That's one way to reduce some of the apparent subjectiivity
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1518]
how's this?
Graham
14-May-2006
[1519]
I think we should kill all colour options.
Gabriele
14-May-2006
[1520]
scott: the reason is that with a black bg your eye will let more 
light in, because on average it's darker, and the white pixels will 
"burn" the retina. with more illumination the eye adjusts so that 
you don't get too much light in.
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1521]
wouldn't break my heart, if AltMe used my system defaults.
Gabriele
14-May-2006
[1522x2]
sure, i agree it would be better to have user defaults.
i'm just saying that light bg is usually the default for a reason, 
not because we're all crazy ;)
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1524]
quote from that article:

Several other important findings also resulted from the analysis 
including the fact that light-on-dark color combinations were rated 
the same as dark-on-light color combinations and the fact that as 
the overall brightness of the text/background combination increased, 
so did the overall user rating.
Graham
14-May-2006
[1525]
It's so we don't waste ink when we print!
ScottT
14-May-2006
[1526x2]
but all my software seems smart enough to know what I want.  I can 
specify all text as black in IE.
that's weird.  why is all the white now pink?  maybe I just don't 
know what i'm doing, or I need to RTM
Sunanda
14-May-2006
[1528]
It's a general issue about usability.

Web browers are much more flexible -- they have to be: they have 
more users.

Soem accessibility options (like chosing fonts and sizes) need to 
be built into View rather than each application.....Then making fluid 
GUI applications will be easy.