World: r3wp

Anything ?

The Puzzles group has resynced. The others not yet.

Hmm, I think this might mean the altme server keeps a record of which 
groups you have synced and which not. So it probably thinks you have 
the same installation (coming from the same machine).

I think you'll see other groups sync when new posts are made to them.

Try quit and restart.

I just Quit and restarted. No new syncs. I noticed that the groups 
do get synced once a new post is made. That's why all I was posting 
were dots a few days ago. Will try and copy the downloaded group 
files to the new AltME location...

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Reichart, I get disconnected while syncing in the groups where there 
are a lot of posts (Core & View, to name a couple). Is there a workaround 
for this? A setting to change, perhaps?

We could really use the "Reset" button right about now. You know 
the one that clears the new messages as read and therefore not "red."

I am a little tired of AltME having no history, aside from that you 
have accumulated yourself. Even your local history gets pushed off 
by newer messages. This is supposed to be a community, not Las Vegas.

You have full history, you just have to change how far back you want 
to see.  Or did I not understand your statement?

If my history is set to 100 and I change it to 1000, do I get to 
see the other 900 messages?

Yup

Reichart, heavy net load to your server coming up! ;-) (When all 
user set history to a googolplex.

Actually, that only affects your local computer.

ok ... how is that?

Well that's better then. What if I sign up to AltME and log onto 
a group that I never have seen before, does it download the historical 
messages? What if I haven't signed in for a year and there are 100,000+ 
messages in the group since then, does AltME download them?

Don't it have to get the messages from your server?

Doesn't

I don't have an AltME server, just the client.

Do we really have the full sets locally at all time?

Altme *always* downloads everything (except for the dot bug, that 
is)

the message setting just says how many messages are *displayed*

if you don't believe me, try resyncing this world from scratch - 
it'll take a very long time :)

Interesting ... I had all groups set to read (so not red ;-) 

Now with Thors dotting some groups turn up with unread messages from 
15-oct-2005 (that was in Rebol Enhancements).

Makes me wonder how many groups have not been properly synchronized 
without me noticing.

Here is a trick in syncing. There is a chat folder that has all the 
chat messages for each group are kept. Inside that folder is a file 
called chat55. If you delete a line entry from that file, the group 
that corresponds with that line will be resycnc like it was never 
been there before.

Warning! Do the above trick on your own risk.

Edgar -- I cam think of two drawbacks to that suggested forced resyn 
method:

1. the files themselves contain the request: " DO NOT MODIFY!" in 
their header, so perhaps Altme can forsee bad consequences if we 
do

2. the resync problem appears to mainly affect those on dial up connections. 
Possibly, that means the issue is related to Altme timing out a slow 
request. So there is the likelihood that resyncing a large group 
completely will simply fail midway.

I did try a variant of your suggestion: I renamed one of the *.set 
files to *.txt (the request does not say "DO NOT DELETE OR RENAME!")
It didn't work.
I ended up with an empry group.

I supposed I shoudl have dotted it to see if it'd've resynced.....But 
that was the problem we're trying to solve :-)

It's pretty hard to solve a problem when you lack the source.

From Reichart's comments, it sounds hard to solve even with the source 
:-)

How about a manual re-sync button?

Under MacOSX, it's a little difficult to have AltME window fill the 
whole screen, but I found a solution. By "the whole screen", I actually 
don't mean full-screen, because MacOSX has the screen-bar at top, 
and below that is the window bar with the 3 buttons. In the altme/prefs/ 
directory is a file named "window". In there is found 3 parameters 
offset, size and maxed. To make the AltME window be as large as possible 
on a 1024x768 resolution, I set these 3 parameters to:
offset: 0x44
size: 1024x724
maxed: false

Only problem is, that the window resizer is covering the scroll-down 
button in the "New message" area at the bottom.

Sunanda, I tried what I just said above and it works.

But you are probably right that it downloads the whole group so it 
may still fail before getting all messages in the group. I have broadband 
so it was not a perfect test.

Sometimes, when working in a world, ones status remains at "logon". 
This problem seems to occur on Linux but not on Windows

That is, when I'm working on Linux. People on Windows do see a wrong 
status for me

Actually, I've seen my status remain at "logon" a few times already, 
so it doesn't only occur in Linux. I'm running WinXP.

Also while you were in that world, doing stuff?

But I'm noy sure if that's what others see...

Yup. But at that time I wasn't doing anything - just browsing the 
posts from one of the groups.

We are trying a bunch of Modem attacks again on the Dot  issue.

Bug: Im missing "mark all groups as read"

as its still no feature Im trying via the bug report ;-)

It is in our log.

Reichart: How about a simple filter on the "." , so they don't display 
if not posted by the current user?

not a solution to the problem, but save everyone else the side effects.

Allen....you smart!  We did something like this in Qtask just recently. 
 (not ".", but dups).

on the 'dot bug': It seems to me there must be set some short timeout 
during the data transfer. I remember I had this problem when on analog 
modem few years ago too. I guess it looks like Altme is missing handling 
of the situation when timeout on port occure (or something like that) 
and the logic reamin in state the sync was completed succefully. 
Just wild quess.