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Pekr 11-Jun-2005 [457x3] | My old time friend, who tried to use rebol some few years ago, left it because of following reasons - weak View documentation, incomplete styleset, occassional View crashes. He complained about missing styles mainly, as as a newbie, he was not able to produce his own styles. He tried to look into styles source, but all those mysterious "init" and other things, you will agree - are not for newbies to start with. Then I digged out one old doc from my archive, basically describing View-without-VID - faces, events, their description etc. He then started to create his own styles, without VID. Then he left rebol..... |
He tried to give a try to other environments, as Delphi etc., but he missed the beauty and freedom of rebol, forever :-) | |
So he is active for last few months once again, and once I pointed him to latest betas, it really made his day. | |
eFishAnt 11-Jun-2005 [460] | maybe you made his life. |
Pekr 11-Jun-2005 [461] | But once again I think, that from newbie rebol coder perspective, the most important things which should follow is - additional, more complex styles, docs, and SDK featuring latest developments. Hopefully we will get there soon, but we are almost there with 1.3 - good work was done! |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [462] | It let's you have menus in VID. Menu-bar and others. |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [463] | The demo does nothing |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [464] | Calling it "System" is propably hype ;-) |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [465x2] | none of the buttons respond |
using >> system/version == 1.2.125.3.1 | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [467] | Any error messages? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [468x2] | nope |
no menus appear | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [470] | And you have both files in the same dir? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [471] | the menu-system is local, and the demo is remote |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [472] | Put them into the same dir, if possible. |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [473x2] | same problem |
the only response I see is that the hilite appears above the buttons and menus | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [475] | I'll check my user.r if that's what causes the problem, wait a second, please ... |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [476] | the other thing is that if I close the demo window down, it doesn't return to console unless I use ESC |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [477x2] | Yes, that's true, that's one of the remaining bugs. |
A question: When you started the script, was there disk activity? | |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [479] | I tried an earlier version, and it worked as advertised |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [480] | The demo tries to read system/options/home to build a menu that reflects the structure beneath that dir. Maybe that's what the problem causes? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [481x2] | My system/options/home is my rebgui directory, which has some subdirectories |
before, it was my rebol/view directory | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [483] | Before means: before you run the script? And the script changes it? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [484x2] | no, just when I last tried the demo out. |
I have since installed later version of view. | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [486] | No, that shouldn't be the cause. |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [487] | I just installed view and no change. |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [488] | But you got the demo window on the screen, together with a console window saying "Menu-System Demo" ? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [489x3] | Also, the demo window takes 2 clicks on the X to close it down. |
correct | |
>> do %menu-system-demo.r Script: "Menu-System Demo" (10-Jun-2005) Script: "Menu-System" (11-Jun-2005) Menu-System Demo | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [492x2] | Ha, that's a hint: for some reason the menu may show invisible ... |
Let me have a check ... | |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [494] | invisible menus .. kewl |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [495x2] | No, all fine here on 1.3.0.3.1 (can't believe that's the reason) |
I'll check that | |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [497x2] | I just got a black bar drop down from the "cool" button |
and a "dot" under the "weired" button. | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [499] | On a fresh console: what does system/options/standard/face/font look like? |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [500x2] | I think the two clicks to close the window down do indicate invisible menus that have dropped down. |
>> system/options/standard/face/font ** Script Error: Invalid path value: standard ** Near: system/options/standard/face/font >> | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [502x2] | the "black dot" or "black hole" should *be* a menu. so, yes. |
typo, sorry, system/standard/face/font | |
Graham 11-Jun-2005 [504x2] | >> probe system/standard/face/font make object! [ name: "arial" style: none size: 12 color: 0.0.0 offset: 2x2 space: 0x0 align: 'center valign: 'center shadow: none ] |
I'm going to reboot my system and see if things change. | |
ChristianE 11-Jun-2005 [506] | Okay, too. I'm disappointed, and I guess you, too ... Still thinking |
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