World: r3wp

yeah, it seems to be very similar (You meant notational Velocity 
I guess ;-)

though the title is actually called tags, they are the same concept... 
only in renote, they are pushed on the right, to be less obstructive.

funny I never heard about NV, thought the idea is borne of the same 
thing... though renote already seems more powerfull with 3 days of 
dev behind it.

(because of macros)

note that I've tested with hundreds of notes and its still very fast., 
even the scrolling.

auto-tagging is also flexible, especially when you use the parent 
modes.  this automatically adds tags to your note based on the parent 
it is in.
this is done even when its grouped later.  


I will be adding a "get all children" command so that it can be used 
in macros. (add/remove tags to a whole group)

I also plan on adding other export modes, one being for make-doc 
 it would allow us to edit data and look at it via make-doc strings 
in a single click.

Z:\Downloads\Applications\r3-cgr\cgr-apps\r3.exe


This application has failed to start because the application configuration 
is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Not sure what that means...

I've never seen this error !  on what os?

XP under VirtualBox

Sounds like corrupted EXE

Maxim, the exe doesn't work for me either. I'm gettingsomethinglike 
"There was an error during execution" or so in a Windows message 
box. Win XP here.

what size was your zip.

it might have corrrupted on upload... ' :-/

5.660.639 bytes

darn, I just downloaded and unpacked it... works for me...  :-(

hum... ok. its correct... let me try something else.

are you able to start the r2.exe in the bin folder?

On Win7 when starting r3.exe I get "The application has failed to 
start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect."

Maybe http://buffered.io/2008/05/17/resolving-side-by-side-configuration-issues/
has some hints ...

ahhh... compiled using debug mode.!

ok.... this is going to take a few minutes... since I have to update 
the release mode so it has the same setup as the debug mode.

I got it to work...pretty cool. Maxim!

What's with r2 stuff...does this work under R2 too? I thought this 
was R3 stuff only?

Is this just nice excercise to show the possibilities, or is there 
any feedback from Carl, if he is willing to extend API to support 
such stuff?

no its just that I'm using r2 to build files.

pekr, its not just an exercise.


and yes Carl is interested, it just wasn't obvious what would make 
it easier to hook into, now we have something to look at and discuss.

I am unable to get the external dll working when doing a Release 
level build.  it compiles without any errors... 


but when running the same script which is working in debug mode, 
I get this  error in the console:


** access error: cannot open: %opengl-cgr.dll reason: "not found 
or not valid"

very strange

Perhaps because of the option -s "which strip the symbols from binary"

Some things that might cause it:
- memory alignment
- uninitialized globals that are used
- missing entry points (use something like dump to see it)

might be the struct alignment.... I just found that it wasn't set 
in release level

yep... that was it  :-)

updated R3-CGR with a Release compiled build.  please test, thanks.

http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/files/r3-cgr.zip

OK, now I get an error that I don't have HW acceleration in virtual 
box, so I guess that's a good sign. :-)

:-) yep...

Crashing on Win7 after printing

... (several lines omitted ..)
1362:polygon  : 1362
--------------------------------------------------
POLYGON PRIMITIVE
...
-->Select_Float_Array()
-->HT_Select()
(crash)

For those interested in a quick overview of the changes in the hostkit, 
here's a diff between CGR-A109 and RT-A109:
https://gist.github.com/9d6d0330b88d6d5419b1

I was out of town, back now... Christian, yes it seems there are 
still one or two compile things to figure out, I'm getting random 
crashes too.

oddly, in debug mode its 100% stable.

Andreas thanks for that.... 


that is exactly why I spent a day re-organizing my code base so that 
the host and the CGR system are now almost separate.  

its now very easy to see what little changes are required for CGRs 
to work.  


though a few tweaks in the host would make CGRs a bit faster and 
simple to use.

one note is that a few of the changes are in fact just added documentation 
in the host, which is scarce at best.


I think it would be nice that as people work on and study the host 
files, more documentation be added, if only to improve its understanding.


many of the view files use short variable names which is ok, but 
the sense of what and most especially *why* things are being done 
is currently very
obscure and I can see it being hard to maintain in the long run.


when you look at all the box region math, sometimes being done more 
than once on the same values, its very hard to positively identify 
what is being calculated and why it even needs to be done at that 
point in the various functions.


when I look at the code, there are many very similar ops being done, 
and it might be that some of that should be reshaped into more re-usable 
code.  maybe if only as multi-line macros, to keep it fast.

christian, if you can send me the full trace of the app it might 
help me track the problem...  either mail it to me or just dump it 
to me privately in altme.


I think its a problem with how VC is optimisizing things to be parralelized 
by SSD type instructions.


on my system its not crashing exactly at the same place but within 
the same source file.  seeing a pattern might help me corner it.

Maxim, the demo crashes for me right when it attempts to open a window..I 
tried it also with the torus.r3d dataset so there must be some other 
problem.

I've had that too, but changing the optimizing on Release mode, I 
have just about the same issue as Christian.


in debug mode I've *never* had a crash yet. even on very small or 
huge datasets.


so AFAICT its a dreary compiler issue, and the worst of it is that 
I can't debug it, cause it *only* crashes when I'm not in Debug.

at this point I've cornered it to the host-tools array code which 
is basically just a loop over the host-code.  so its possible that 
the way the core dll was compiled is part of the problem.


I'll try to compile the A107 version in Release mode.. maybe it was 
built using different switches.

Crashes for me too, under XP x64.

on window open or after a ->> / <-- trace line?

On window open.

Maxim, all demos run fine now.

thanks.  Andreas told me he was reaching 70fps using the simple tree 
demo running wine on linux!

closer to 2-5 fps here, but probably due to software OpenGL