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Graham 27-Jan-2010 [1841] | Wow... .Gabriele you've been busy .... |
Steeve 27-Jan-2010 [1842x2] | Nice schemes Gaby. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mey8GokRFf4 | |
Graham 27-Jan-2010 [1844] | Can you do an english version Steeve? |
Steeve 27-Jan-2010 [1845x2] | I don't know if it's possible without destructing the flow (lot of private jokes) |
A literal traduction would mean nothing | |
Pekr 27-Jan-2010 [1847] | Thanks, Gabriele! |
Henrik 27-Jan-2010 [1848] | Great stuff, Gabriele |
Pekr 27-Jan-2010 [1849] | I wonder how Hardball differs to Rugby? Does it cure Rugby's ocassional problems? |
Sunanda 27-Jan-2010 [1850] | Lots of good stuff in the power-mezz .... thanks, Gabriele! http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/ |
Janko 27-Jan-2010 [1851] | Ups.. should respond here.. power-mezz seems really awesome collections of stuff? I should take a week off and study all it offers! Is this part qtask libraries? I saw qtask in the license now. |
Graham 27-Jan-2010 [1852] | It looks like stuff Gabriele has done for qtask |
Janko 27-Jan-2010 [1853] | collect seems an awesome idea :) .. what are macros about and that custom func ? |
Gabriele 27-Jan-2010 [1854x2] | i need volunteers to help with the docs. there's a wiki in the sourceforge page... |
also, patches are always welcome. just clone the HG repository from the sourceforge page. you are also welcome to publish your derived repositories, and i will just pull the things i like. | |
james_nak 27-Jan-2010 [1856] | Thanks Gabriele. Good job. |
Will 27-Jan-2010 [1857] | Graham, how is Jaime doing? is he monitoring R3 for a come back? |
Graham 27-Jan-2010 [1858] | I don't think he is monitoring R3 .. I've just been in communication with him recently He's still scheming, and you can see what he is doing from his Linkedin profile |
Gregg 27-Jan-2010 [1859] | Excellent Graham. Thanks for pursuing that. |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1860] | Replying to amacleod here: http://www.rm-asset.com/ This provides a good description. |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1861] | It appears to be a studio of programmers that do development, not an IDE. |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1862] | Please don't call me an IDE :-) |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1863] | I would never do so, you are totally RAD :) |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1864] | Uhm, thanks :-) |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1865x2] | RAD was a term in the '90s that meant Rapid Application Development. It's a compliment, if a somewhat goofy one. |
Yes, it was corny then too. | |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1867] | AFAIK the compliment only works because it was also a term in the 80's meaning "cool". |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1868] | Hence the pun, even when Borland coined the term. If you want to know what it referred to, look at every development environment nowadays which has a visual GUI designer, especially those that affect the code directly when you make visual changes. All high-end IDEs in modern times are cheap knockoffs of Delphi from the early '90s (back in the Win 3.1 days), even Visual Studio. |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1869] | I suppose the NeXT guys didn't have much to say in that? Maybe my history is not good on that. When did Delphi come around? |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1870x2] | Before NeXT by a few years. |
But the modern IDE style folows the Delphi model. Especially the MS tools, since they licensed the patents (and poached Borland's employees). | |
Henrik 9-Mar-2010 [1872] | Maybe that's one more reason why no-one bought NeXT boxes (aside from the price). |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1873x4] | And also the Sun and Oracle tools, since the component model of Java was designed by Borland. And Eclipse, since it emulated the MS tools. |
Developers did buy NeXT boxes to cross-develop for other platforms. And some apps got ported to Windows later (I miss Lotus Improv). | |
NeXT's visual form designer was based on Smalltalk's. Delphi followed a different model altogether. | |
Smalltalk came first, of course. | |
Andreas 9-Mar-2010 [1877] | And I think NeXTSTEP preceded Delphi by several years, in fact. Of course, OSX's present-day interface builder app is a direct NeXTSTEP heritage. But we're way off-topic now, I guess :) |
Gregg 9-Mar-2010 [1878] | VB came before Delphi, and I think Interface Builder beat them both. |
Reichart 9-Mar-2010 [1879x2] | NeXT (85) came WAY before VB (91) and Delphi (93) |
I still have my BW and Colour NeXT, I have my original copies of Windows 1, and VB, and Delphi... | |
BrianH 9-Mar-2010 [1881x2] | Ah, OK, cool. I just have the last 3, was too young for NeXT then. Delphi was based on Turbo Vision, a DOS product that came out after Windows 1 iirc, but the GUI builder was new. Which came first, VB for DOS or VB for Windows? |
It's really interesting the different approaches taken around that time. I was studying and writing UI frameworks in the early '90s, starting before VB and Delphi came out. It would have been cool to see a NeXT machine in more than magazine articles. The IB model is gaining acendancy with the newest platforms now: OS X, WPF, Glade (don't know about the Qt stuff). Most of the corporate-backed Java tools still follow the Delphi model though. Flash still seems to follow (an advanced version of) the VB model, but Flex probably doesn't. | |
Reichart 9-Mar-2010 [1883] | I don't remember VB DOS/Win, but I recall odditites back then... |
Gregg 10-Mar-2010 [1884] | It has been an interesting story indeed. VB/Win came before VB/DOS, Turbo Pascal begat Delphi, and Turbo BASIC became Power BASIC...and is still sold, supported, and updated by the original author (Bob Zale) who got the rights back from Borland. VB/DOS had a very short life. Only one release as I recall. The problem was that it was up against established libraries from Crescent and Microhelp, which were mostly coded in ASM, and for which you got all the source. |
Steeve 11-Mar-2010 [1885x2] | Wow Dr. Graham, I didn't know you were our Dr. HOUSE |
quite handsome ;-) | |
Graham 11-Mar-2010 [1887] | I was trying to persuade them to use the "?" image that I use on Qtask ! |
Sunanda 11-Mar-2010 [1888] | Nice, Graham. Meanwhile, in the UK, we're being advised to opt out of such systems ;) http://www.itpro.co.uk/621304/bma-calls-for-halt-to-electronic-patient-records |
BrianH 11-Mar-2010 [1889x2] | In the UK I would; the UK is turning into a surveilance society. EMR records need strong assurances that they won't get into the hands of those who would do you harm, even if that includes the government. |
EMR records -> Medical records | |
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