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BrianH 23-Apr-2011 [5923] | For that matter, MS's Windows 8 plans are going to depend a great deal on improvements to their desktop/tablet/phone development tools, since it will have to support 3 platforms: x86, x64 and ARM. The .NET tools are critical to that, the same way that LLVM is critical to Apple. |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5924x2] | Kaj, why not use Rebol for uploading files to S3 ? |
Also, when you interact with the AWS api, you specify which API ( date ) you are using. | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5926] | Is there an incremental syncing tool in R3? |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5927] | You'd have to write that yourself |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5928x2] | Right. Maybe I'll find the time after my retirement |
Are there even Amazon protocols for R3? | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5930] | Yes. I wrote them. |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5931] | Maarten's were for R2, weren't they? |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5932] | Yes. |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5933] | I'll probably review yours again someday, but at the moment REBOL doesn't look like a good place for investments |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5934x4] | I have a copy of them .. but I was never allowed to release them even though they are said to be open source |
And Chris turned my version into a protocol | |
or scheme | |
http://www.ross-gill.com/r/s3.html | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5938x2] | The R2 stuff was never an option for me |
And now the latest version of R3 doesn't run on Syllable, either | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5940x2] | I did the AWS stuff for S3 using SOAP |
R3 | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5942] | Ai, I'm not interested in the SOAP interface, either |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5943] | the limitation with the R2 and R3 interface is that you can't upload large files |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5944] | That's a showstopper, too. I need to upload CD images |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5945] | As I understand it .. it is far better to upload large files to S3 from EC2 |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5946x2] | I would reckon so. But I haven't started with EC2 yet |
As this week's events show, EC2 is not a good thing to become dependent on, either | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5948x3] | I don't believe either Singapore or Japan were affected :) |
Traditionally Rebol file transfers were done by reading the file into memory first which is a pain for large files. | |
Having said that, I think for my R3 ftp implementation, I stream the file off the file system instead of reading into a variable first | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5951] | Sorry, but all this spells immature, and that's no way to build products |
BrianH 23-Apr-2011 [5952x2] | Kaj, he's talking about DVD images when he says "large files". CD images are small enough. |
It's a 32-bit addressing issue. | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5954x2] | Is Kaj talking about AWS ?? |
Actually Brian, if you try to load a 650Mb file into R2 .. you'll crash as far as I recall | |
BrianH 23-Apr-2011 [5956] | Weird. I remember the 32bit addressing issue, but not that. That's annoying. |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5957x4] | I've uploaded thousands of files to S3 over the last year |
but they're only a few Mbs or less in size | |
For larger files I use S3copy ( http://download.cnet.com/S3copy-Amazon-S3-Command-Line-Copy/3000-2242_4-10915715.html ) as it does not block my application if I get something else to do the uploads | |
Requires .Net though | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5961] | If you port that to Syllable Desktop and downsize it one or two orders of magnitudes, I'm willing to have a look :-) |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5962] | After you port .net :) |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5963x2] | I looked into that when it came out, but rejected the idea in later years |
I've even ported part of GNU Portable DotNet | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5965x2] | Is Java on Syllable yet? |
Is there a Syllable AMI ? | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5967x2] | We used to have the Kaffe VM, but nobody did anything with it, so beyond shouting that we must have it, there's no interest |
As I said, I haven't started with EC2 yet. I'd have to port Syllable Server to EC2. Syllable Desktop is impossible to run on EC2, unless you'd run it in a full emulator | |
GrahamC 23-Apr-2011 [5969x2] | Are people running desktops on Ec2 ? |
And I pre-paid for a 3 year Windows instance a month or so ago :( | |
Kaj 23-Apr-2011 [5971x2] | You could run remote desktops on a server, so I guess some people are also doing that on EC2 |
Admins like single points of failure ;-) | |
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