World: r3wp

For instance, there is no reason that we should wait for Carl to 
start an Android port of the host kit. Even knowing that the r3lib 
has compiled on ARM is more than we require at this point, though 
it's nice to hear; we certainly aren't at the point where we actually 
need that build in our hands. Carl is not the limiting factor at 
the moment.

If by "start" you mean starting by thinking about the port, then 
granted, we won't need Carl for that.

If you are talking about getting actual stuff compiled, not having 
a libr3 basically takes any fun out of it.

Start figuring out the mapping between the host API and the Android 
API, etc. Compiling is a few second process at the end. Writing the 
code will take a bit longer.

The basic (non-view) "mapping" won't be much of an issue.

And stabbing in the dark without being able to test the code written 
with a quick compile is a very much un-fun process, at least for 
me personally.

I've already started the research, bought the phone and such. My 
limiting factors aren't Carl. And I don't do the incremental development 
with frequent compiling style, I do the write it ahead of time style, 
so am not limited yet by not having a lib in hand.

...Moving this conversation to....................hmm.............. 
we don't have a Group that nails this one....but I'm moving this 
to Android....

Interesting comment on SSL libraries:

http://www.varnish-cache.org/docs/trunk/phk/ssl.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/11/18/switzerland.cern.antimatter/index.html


38 anti-matter atoms trapped ... I wonder if they'll let them go 
free?

They've capatured anti-hydrogen .. next is anti-CO2 and then we can 
get rid of the excess CO2!

The above is in wrong group - should be in humour.

Ladislav, you have no sense of humour!

getting rid of the CO2, one molecule at a time.

But imagine the energy released when matter meets anti-matter ... 
has no one seen Star Trek??

There is no sound in space, and there is no excess CO2

Ah .. the old Zen thing

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/14/html5_in_2014/

They're taking the timeframe of R3 development to implement a... 
test suite

Perhaps we can use this THREE YEARS, to simply revert to somethign 
like xwindows, or even EPS, which simply works, and make a new web 
that vector and scales, and is small and fast.

That's called the Next, and the web was invented on it, so we're 
supposed to already have it

Reichart, that might have bigger ramifications than what we would 
immediately see, since many systems are (needlessly) rendered using 
heavy HTML engines, like the OSX dashboard. There are some big savings 
to make here by changing the Volkswagen of programming languages 
to something simpler to render.

That is what I had in mind when I wrote that.  I still own both a 
BW and Colour Next.

uh oh ... consuming the food/water near tokyo for a year is eqivalent 
to one CT scan ... not good

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/vonhavenstein/japan_earthquaketsu_fukushima_daiichi_march18_2011_dg.jpg

(note the RED forrest..................just like Ukrain)

http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-losangeles-bg.html

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/03/amount-of-radioactive-fuel-at-fukushima.html

Not trying to over load anyone, just showing that the Tech of this 
topic is "tricky".

Seems simple enough to me. Wanna cool a nuclear plant? Throw water 
on it :-)

And the heavier it is the better?

It's interesting to me that we don't have anything better or more 
efficient to actually throw the water with.

Perhaps liquid helium is not available in large enough amounts?

The height of our hi-tech is low.

Can't they bring in like 10 in remote controlled firetrucks that 
would spray water and go out for refiling while next one comes? (they 
made ad-hoc remote controlled cars in myth busters so it can't be 
that hard)

and don't japanese have all kinds of robots? (I know ratiation can 
screw electronics, but it seems it's not that hard, those chopters 
and firetrucks that they use now surely rely on electronics too)

or just construct the pipes and pumps that would use seawater near 
to constantly water it? They transport oil across continets in pipes 
no matter how far the water is, they sould be able to make a constant 
suply in there.

or probably 100 other things that seem better than driving in with 
human controlled firetrucks and flying over with a helicopter pouring 
water on it.

at slight risk of looking like idiot: http://jankom-code.posterous.com/idiots-3-minute-solutions-on-cooling-down-the
Idiot's 3 minute solutions for cooling down the reactors in Japan

There is probably no money in developing equipment for handling nuclear 
accidents, if one only happens every 25 years, as it just adds to 
the cost of building reactors, reducing the financial incentive to 
build them in the first place. Also even though many reactor designs 
that are supposedly better than the current ones exist on paper or 
are in research, there is apparently not enough people working in 
the field of research and licensing to move such reactors into production.


There are reactor types that work entirely with passive cooling and 
can be evacuated for 72 hours before anything happens, but they are 
still at the research stage.


Putting the reactor in a big hole might be a good idea, but it depends 
on the location and how an earth quake would affect the hole.


It seems that many of these accidents are due to very clear design 
flaws or overriding specific safety procedures. That's a positive 
thing, because it means, it's not impossible to build very safe reactors.

The only thing they seem to robotisize is a Dutch company they asked 
to make aerial photos with those remote controlled geek helicopters

I thought those were always Made In China, but apparently the Dutch 
are good at making them seem high tech :-)

just so that we don't start feeling too smug about how things are 
done here in North America wrt nuclear plants:

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair03162011.html

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

That's good info

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/150-training-a-education/2188-cmu-drops-oop.html

Why not just teach Javascript?

At least they can use it

There are these rare messages where I sometimes think there is some 
sanity left in the world after all