World: r3wp

For example say the image is just a picture of a large ball or circle. 
 The person clicks the center of the circle and holds down to expand 
to the perimeter of the circle in the image and releases and this 
gets interpretes as radius back to the server.

still open to image analysis attack

Captachas are agains people, not bots. Bots are mostly very simple, 
especially the one which just puts links into fields. Why they would 
spend time on image analysis when they just can travel on another 
site with simple forms. fields.

they broke the gmail captcha and yahoo and hotmail by use of image 
analysis.

people.. not bots:)

oh - i thought they were reported to have automated it?

I don't think there is any bot just browsing around searching for 
another captcha to break in:) I can call it "a script" which someone 
could use to break gmail captcha, but not "a bot". Anyway... I bet 
they used many people to just click and  traslate the images.

http://securitylabs.websense.com/content/Blogs/2919.aspx

very interesting info on teh gmail break

Yes... also there is a prove that someone pay for recognizing pictures. 
Anyway... if you have a normal site and don't want links in your 
form fields as Paul has.. using simple JS document.write is enough 
to hide the submit button ans stop the bots. At least that's my experience.

Our general media portal reports, that SUN is being bought by Oracle. 
I thought that it was IBM who tried to acquire them? Anyone confirms 
the news?

Hmm, I wonder what happens to Open Office and MySQL then ....

Hm.. I imagine they have hard time selling Oracle if MySQL is free.. 
I wouldn't like to be mysql right now :)

I didn't know Oracle even exists in last years, and surelly not that 
they have so much $$ to buy Sun (+ MySQL )... I am not sure if they 
are very present in web-scene

They might close mySQL, but I think that the licence forbids them 
doing so. They might close further mySQL developments, but in such 
a case, I think that some ppl would fork it anyway ...

Oracle already owns the company thaat makes the InnoDB engine for 
MySQL, and that didn't kill MySQL.

I don't think that SAP will ike this.

Oracle moves away from a one-product company. Strategically a good 
step. And owning a lot of datastorage infrastructure within the companies 
makes them a logical choice for the other layers.

But overall, I don't like this happening... when will Oracle DBs 
internally use ZFS?

What is wrong with ZFS?

Nothing. I'm using it on OSX. My message referrs to two topics:
1. Oracle buys Sun -> I don't like it
2. Maybe ZFS will now become more a DB thing than a FS thing.

Google releases plugin for 3D API - http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2009/04/google-releases-3d-graphics-plugin-for-browsers.ars

hm.. very interesting.. now unity3d (and ston3d) got some competition

O3D is an open-source web API for creating rich, interactive 3D applications 
in the browser.


Wow, 3D games in the browser! It just gets better and better! What 
a wonderful world! ;-)

Maybe we'll even be able to use the back button, when someone shoot 
us in the game.

LOL

:)

plugins that offer hardware accelerated rendering are not that rare 
but there is none except shockwave (and now unity slowly) that have 
any worthwile base of users that have it already installed. This 
one would be great if it gets forward becuase it's the "google's" 
plugin, but for games it also needs sound, good input / fullscreen 
switching and to compete to ston3d and unity physics

I like O3D alot. It makes me nostalgic, a 3D simulator right out 
of 1995 with the single digit framerates and all. Every day, new 
and amazing ways to slow down your computer.

:)

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/see_wolfram_alpha_in_action_-_video_and_screenshots.php

3D layers for the web have been around for years... but it seems 
people don't really care en masse.  I wonder if its the technology 
or if its a culture thing.

Not sure if this has been discussed, but has anyone compared Adobe 
Air to REBOL/View or /SDK?

In terms of end result, that is - not necessarily of the languages 
involved.

Chris, we had some discussions recently in the Tretbase thread concerning 
them.

How far back?  (appears to be beyond my current threshold)

Was just a few days ago.

I may have my ALTME settings on a greater buffer than you but the 
conversation in there was quite brisk for a day or two.  What was 
it that you wanted to discuss on the topic?

I've really only come across it - it seems a shame that it is being 
used in ways View has not (but could have).  That said, it seems 
to solve problems that View has not (yet) in rich text, cross-platform 
use of native menus - generally good desktop/web hybrids.

You're stuck, of course, with web/ajax/flash, which I trust is as 
much a pain as traditional web development, yet is well documented.

(web being html/js/dom)

Deployment seems smooth (that is, I've had no issues installing applications 
mac/pc) and the site-specific applications I've tried offers much 
over vanilla browser versions.

Note that these are first impressions - I really don't know how much 
of a drag these apps are, or how much polish went into the particular 
apps I tried.

simple guy, simple motor - BS? http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/ultimate-mylo-video-this-has-got-to-be.html

this was based on Howard Johnson's motor which was detailed in Science 
& Mechanics in around 1980 - http://www.newebmasters.com/freeenergy/sm.html

Yeah Chris, I took heat for making the observation that REBOL will 
never catch Flex.

It's just because it's hard to prove "never". On a structural basis 
Flash doesn't have near the potential of R3 or Silverlight, but of 
these three only Silverlight is heading towards that potential quickly. 
Only time will tell.

Brian SIlverlight is still behind Flex.  Next version of flex is 
about to be released.

You are talking about position. I am talking about momentum and the 
path they are following. Different issues.

We'll see Brian.