World: r3wp

Petr re nails;  I don't think so ... maybe, but not in the grand 
scheme.  I only got into flash because Oldes has a REBOL dialect. 
 I only got into REBOL, because it Rocks!   Feel sad for those that 
don't get it.  It really is a "secret weapon" for those that use 
it.


If you believe the TIOBE numbers, REBOL is still well below 0.09 
percent (the lowest they list of the top 50)  We have lots and lots 
of wiggle room.   Paul's new database, Henriks work on Forum, the 
Doc, R3; all positive moves.  I think the only thing that may give 
REBOL a 'quick explosive adoption boost' is a Free Software announcement, 
but I like and respect Carl's decision in that area.  So slow and 
steady may win the race in the long haul.   REBOL is well beyond 
the 'hype' phase and we still love it.  And every few days now, people 
like John give others yet another reason to check it out.  Long live 
R2, Longer live R3.


Once Reichart gets his empire built, that will only be another boost 
to the public face of REBOL as well.   Gabriele, BrianH, Ashley, 
 Graham, umm everybody; making large and small contributions adds 
to the fire.


Well and you doing some high level marketing can't hurt either.  
Keep it up and keep digging.  REBOL is in for the duration from what 
I can see.  And hey, I'm trying my best to drag some of the up and 
coming coders on compsci.ca to the REBOL light.  At least we know 
that REBOL is not a flash in the pan.   We do need to promote people 
like Sunanda a little more perhaps.  The base of rebol.org is terrific 
but it's mosly hidden, much like Altme.

Go rebols go!

I don't think moving to the free software change as much as btiffin 
expect. There are relatively low number of programmers able to do 
"low level" works in rebol iself, and I don't expect there would 
a number of it by the miracle of going to Freesoft. Anyway the most 
awaited change, opening the library acces already happend and nothing 
great was heard/changed.

I actually agree Pavel;  I was hinting, that it would be the "news" 
of the announcement, that would hit the services that would pique 
interest and give a quick boost to adoption (and I didn't mention 
it, but by quick, I was thinking a one or two day "news" boost). 
 And yeah, so far, the 2.7.6 release hasn't even blipped on many 
of the news services, so you've made me rethink the original statement 
as well.
 

I still believe slow and steady will win more than anything.  Back 
to the TIOBE, lower than some 0.09 percent  (magical stats) number; 
we could double the number of rebols tomorrow and still only be 20 
per 10'000 programmers.  :)   Lots and lots of wiggle room.

Wine 1.0  is close.   Release Candidate expected next week.    http://www.winehq.org

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-translate-adds-10-new-languages.html

Flash Player 10 beta version - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/

post that to r3-alpha All group, please .... it is not to make us 
more nervous, but to be realistic. If the speed of View development 
is as-is, we might as well close the door soon ...

OLPC 2.0 plans - http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/20/olpc-laptop-microsoft-tech-personal-cx_ag_0520olpc.html?partner=yahootix

Quite nice AJAX widgets - http://www.componentart.com/default.aspx

RISC vs. CISC makes sense after 20 years - http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/risc-vs-cisc-mobile-era.ars

If one has to criticize NASA, it is that they aren't spending enough 
money on toilets:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24841375/

I stand corrected:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19623499/

maybe if they had spent 30,000 USD on a hammer they could give it 
whack !

What became of those custom hammers?  (Everything may look like a 
nail, but not all nails reverberate quite the same)

soon we'll be getting the news that the first plumber is about to 
go into space.

OS-X Snow Leopard - http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

iPhone 3G - twice as fast, half the price - http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2NTQ

That "half the price" comes from subsidies, making it even less likely 
that they will sell unlocked iPhones. I look forward to when carrier-locked 
phones are made illegal in the US.

Unfortunately, I've heard that the price in Denmark is going to be 
around 6000 kr for an unlocked phone, which converts to over 1200 
USD (!). I hope one day, it will be illegal to sell phones through 
such narrow channels. Telia will have a monopoly in selling iPhones 
here. I don't see how this helps Apple at all.

there's no confirmation of the price yet, though.

MacOSX Snow Leopard Server will be able to read/write ZFS partitions:

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/snowleopard/

Just don't buy 'm. Police to enforce laws cost money, too, and more 
than that

Interview with John Carmack on RayTracing in GPU or not topic - http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=532

one step closer to the one ring, the one that rules them all http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7450321.stm

Pekr, nice spot! Makes me think of OpenRT: http://www.openrt.de/

Another RIA platform - Apple's SproutCore. So we have Flash, Silverlight, 
Google, Curl, R3 in the future, and now Apple is entering the game 
with interesting development - 


http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/06/14/cocoa-for-windows-flash-killer-sproutcore/


SproutCore not only makes it easy to build real applications for 
the web using menus, toolbars, drag and drop support, and foreign 
language localization, but it also provides a full Model View Controller 
application stack like Rails (and Cocoa), with bindings, key value 
observing, and view controls. It also exposes the latent features 
of JavaScript, including late binding, closures, and lambda functions. 
Developers will also appreciate tools for code documentation generation, 
fixtures, and unit testing.

I have permanent Internal server errors on SproutCore page which 
does not looks too good - http://www.sproutcore.com/

JavaScript getting better for RIA? Yet-another-js-library - http://www.extjs.com/products/extjs/

In FF3.0 try about:robots

Dunno if it is new or old news, but EFIX will allow to run OS-X on 
usual PC hardware, you just buy special USB stick for that - http://www.efi-x.com/index.php?language=english

Symbian going open source http://news.zdnet.com/2424-1035_22-207981.html?tag=nl.e589

Another mobile devices coming to market - PPC based - http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2008/06/cherrypal-et-al.html

Another article on Symbian going open sourced - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9976434-37.html?tag=nefd.top

Partly open source, in the short term

It's historically been very hard to impossible to fully opensource 
previously proprietary operating systems

After few years of waiting, MorphOS is released - http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html

Quick read of OSNews comments reveals though, that it costs 150USD, 
which will bury it imo ...

111 before the cut off date ..

will this run only on A1 ?

Rebol 3 running under Flash? http://www.toolness.com/wp/?p=52

Interesting from deployment POV, but it would kind of mean that we 
gave up. As for Core, I can imagine it, but as for View? I don't 
know ...

Not really, it would be just another platform...

Another way to implement and deploy our dialects...

Google opens its protocols - http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;687925953

are we not surprised that Google does not use XML for it's protocols??

I'm not.....Google is shuffling terabytes of data with very short 
response times.

XML may be a good archive/interchange format -- a better .CSV format 
-- but it just does not scale for operational systems of the size 
Google has.

We are not surprised. Although if they'd wrapped eveyrthing in a 
<google></google> , would that have made a difference ;-)

DragonFly BSD is now at version 2.0 with the Hammer filesystem now 
implemented.

Try CUIL.  http://cuil.comSearch REBOL.  Nice page, could almost 
be a nice rebol.com frontpage.  CUIL is a google spinoff.

this seems more interesting than cuil, but probably very limited: 
http://www.trueknowledge.com/technology/screenshots/