World: r3wp

there is still a lot of things to do (for example usage of Func2 
action tag is not finished yet, but this is the version of the dialect 
I used to compile the flash site above and I was also able to compile 
all the old examples (except one) Some of them with a little code 
changes.

what's with silverlight?

Isn't that the MS version flash ?

I still have a lot of things to imrove on my Flash compiler.. I don't 
want to play with some XML toy which can need ages to be available 
on so many computers as Flash is now

(ok, you can use c# to create silverlight apps, but anyway... I don't 
believe, it will took off soon)

Anyway.. the main reason to rewrite the actions parser was, that 
everything was hardcoded, now it first translates actions into instructions, 
which are compiled on second pass... so it's now possible to better 
dubug the compilers results... for example:

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r
>> acompiler/translate [a: 1 + 2 + b]
== [["a" 1 2 aAdd "b" aGetVariable aAdd aSetVariable]]
>> compile-actions [a: 1 + 2 + b]
== #{960D0000610007010000000702000000479603000062001C471D}

>> rswf/parse-ActionRecord compile-actions [a: 1 + 2 + b]
     aPush ["a" 1 2]
     aAdd2 #{47}
     aPush ["b"]
     aGetVariable #{1C}
     aAdd2 #{47}
     aSetVariable #{1D}

Oldes - what is the real purpose of your dialect? Is it just for 
you, who likes REBOL coding? I mean - do you think that eventual 
Flash "programmer" could find such way of creating Flash stuff useful?

I find it useful and that's enough.

I did not want to offend you. I never worked with Flash, so my question 
was just curiousity, if creating Flash stuff that way could be usefull 
outside REBOL community, or would 99% ppl prefer visual IDE for such 
purpose?

I would like to create something like a rebol/flash vid in a future. 
and what I can say is, that I don't like the visual IDE too much 
for coding. All the actions on different frames and in different 
sprites.

And it's always good to know, how something internally works. That's 
what I'm doing - learning.

Thank you Oldes! I really would like to learn using your dialect! 
I hate Adobe IDE as well ;-)

for example now.. I've found, that there is one tag I was not aware 
of - 35 ( DefineBitsJPEG3 ) which is JPG compressed image with additional 
alpha channel.

Oldes' dialect  is something I always wanted to study, but never 
managed. Adobe's products are very interesting as well to study, 
so I delved more time in learning actionscript directly. Next on 
my list is Flex. But Oldes' dialect is a feat on itself.

Oldes: many developers don't like to code in the Flash visual IDE, 
like you, that's why Adobe came up with Flex. The good news is that 
the SDK is open source.

I know... and I can for example include compiled actionscript using 
the compiler with SDK. Anyway.. maybe I should check more carefully. 
Some scripts seems not to be working, so there is probably still 
something wrong with my compiler.

You can code and compile on all platforms. If you want the official 
Builder (based on Eclipse, or a an Eclipse plug-in),  then you're 
tied to Windows or the Mac.

hm, they are working here but not on the web.. will have to check 
it

it will be just problem with automatic upload because the source 
files are missing as well:/

- missing files uploaded -

Thanks Oldes. It is exciting to know you are still working on this.

Petr: It's been a goal of mine to find a place for Rebol/Flash within 
QM.

I'm glad Oldes still works on this Flash project, I'm sure I'll use 
it in a near future to create cool photo templates :-)

Yesterday I started rewriting swf-parser, because the current one 
is from year 2002 and is full of nasty hacks and bad approaches. 
I already have the main part of the new one so I will soon upload 
new version of my dialect which will include it:-)

The main reason I started with this rewriting is to better support 
foreign SWF file importing. So you will be for example able to join 
to SWF files into one.

(two)

Rebol/Flash dialect (RSWF) version 2.5.0 is available!
compressed: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r(89kB)

uncompressed: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_2.5.0.r(331kB) 

as colorized HTML: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_2.5.0.html
 (885kB) 

What's new:

- New swf-parser included which replaces old exam-swf function (useful 
for importing foreign SWF files)

- Added implementation of Class definitions for SWF versions 6 and 
higher (I have to create some examples)

- Added new 'trace function into actions (which can be use to compile 
swf files with or without trace calls easily)

- 'require and 'include now accepts block of files or urls (I should 
modify my rswf code colorizer to show included files as well)


Here is also new example how to include first of GUI elements: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-cliphandler

In the future I would like to create something like mini Layout dialect 
which will be used for better positioning of the new GUIs I'm working 
on.

and one more example how to extend existing class to make a new one: 
http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-draggablecliphandler

Version 2.6.0 available.... now with first version of LAYOUT... (only 
buttons available now) http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-layout-buttons

Nice, we can later go for full VID translator :-)

Wicked cool Oldes!

Version 2.7.0 available....

- Fixed bug import-swf (while importing swf file with ExportAssets 
tag)

- Updated layouter (now with new 'Text, 'Scroller, 'ClipHandler and 
'ScrollPane GUIs)

http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r
http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_2.7.0.r


New example script with used ScrollPane is here: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-scrollpane

Version 2.8.0 available....

- Updated layouter (now with new 'Field, 'Password and 'Area GUIs)

http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_latest.r
http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/rswf_2.8.0.r


New example script: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-layout-fields

Version 2.9.0 ... now with Calendar GUI and fixed one nasty bug in 
'IF compilation after 'EITHER rule
http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/swf8-layout-calendar

Wow! That's really great!

the mini dialect is cool Oldes.. but how will it fit in with R3?

I guess we don't really care for now as R3 is not yet out, in the 
meantime Oldes probably needs this flash UI now - btw, I'm glad he 
is not waiting for R3, looks like too many people are waiting this 
event and don't start any project.. but that's another discussion! 
not here!

it's my life

There is virtually no new scripts posted on rebol.org, it is a sign 
that everyone expects R3

Rebolers are sick of waiting.

.... good Rebolers don't wait. At least I have so many R2 scripts 
which I would like to improve... I really don't have to wait for 
R3.. with R3 I will be able to do other optimizations but these are 
not necessary for the functionality.

good Rebolers don't wait

 ... well said. There's a lot of juice left in R2. I'll personally 
 be using it at least for 12-18 months more for commercial projects. 
 Full time.

Version 2.10.0 - Now with new command ImageStream which creates Sprite 
with sequence of images on each frame

Usage example is here: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/example/mx-imagestream
(more will be soon)

Oldes.. i think your work is great, but where's the advantage over 
using a Flash IDE?

I would like to see you how you create the swf from above in Flash 
IDE... I don't say that IDE is bad... I just need something else 
sometimes... and it's fun for me:) And I'm sure I don't want to write 
apps in MXML.. It's not funny at all. Anyway... making MXML output 
would be much more easier than producing SWF files directly. Anyway... 
I have Flex as well.. it has 196MB. My dialect has 95kB

it would be less, but the comments are not compressed:)

And I have Import-swf command in the dialect (not documented yet 
as I still change it a little bit). I'm using it to include large 
animations made in IDE. As I have a caching mechanism already, I 
can include it in my dialect and control it in miliseconds, don't 
have to wait many seconds to compile all the animation in the IDE 
every time when I change a bit of a code.

And I'm not limited with restrictions which you have when you use 
includes from external files - I have one file at the end.

and one more reason - to hack a default Flash gui components is for 
me much more difficult than make my own from scratch

I can see the potential.. just thinking how difficult it would be 
to create complex layouts.. as opposed to just drag 'n drop with 
Flash IDE