World: r3wp

brrr.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/112402
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidDebug

Please try the latest gutsy gibbon livecd and see if that works for 
you.
 That may be an idea.

Lol

gutsy is the test-version, but you could try if they managed to deal 
with it. if your raid shows up there, you have at least a chance^^

perhaps I should wait for the friggin freaky version ?

oops.. passed that one.

Better than the Late Longhorn^^

Or try a 2.4-kernel. someone said they have drivers on their site

I hae altme in a directory in my user home directory /home/user/altme 
and if I click on it there it puts all files in that altme directory 
which is what I want, but if I try to link to /home/user/altme/altme 
or start it from the command line it always tries to install again 
and put the files in my user directory /home/user.  Does anyone know 
how to symlink it so it opens in the sub directory?

hae = have

Unfortunately, this indeed seems to be how it behaves from the command 
line. So you can't do that, or start it automatically, unless you 
never start it from the graphical desktop

It's a long-standing bug, and even the current Windows version seems 
to do something similar

bummer.  Thanks anyway.

create a altme.sh script that CDs to that dir then runs altme; then 
link to the script.

Thanks

finely got Altme working on mandriva using wine,now I can click on 
a link and it opens the browser :)  Altme worked before without wine 
but could never click on a link and open the browser

The shell script worked great.  Thanks!

Newbie to Ubuntu ... how do I install Rebol on Ubuntu s that I can 
double click on a .r file and it to run Rebol ?


I have downloaded the Debian version of View ... if I double click 
on the Rebol executable I getthe desktop .... if I then click on 
the Console the desktop dissapears but I dont get a console.
Any ideas ?

The REBOL console doesn't work on Linux, sadly. Although you could 
use the Windows version under Wine

To get .r files to start in REBOL, just rightclick on one, go to 
Properties, then to Open With, add REBOL/View and make that the default

Thanks Kaj .... I did manage to get a console to work under 6.10 
but cant remember how I did it (I think it was by running rebol from 
the terminal).

Yes, running Core, or View in text mode, from the Linux shell is 
no problem

if you make a shortcut, you should be able to select "run from terminal" 
(exact way depends on if you're on Ubuntu or Kubuntu).

also, you should be able to add the .r association manually in the 
file browser. i have it working in kubuntu.

anyway, i prefer just working for the shell most of the times.

Is this going to break anything for getting a valid status code out 
of call?

cap: func [calls /local sherr status] [
    sherr: copy ""
    append calls { ; echo -n $? >&2}
    status: call/wait/info/error calls sherr
    status/exit-code: to integer! find/last/tail sherr newline
    status
]

Of course this is stripped down  (the whole /console /output etc, 
combination thing to handle), but it seems to be working for getting 
at exit status.  Dirty pool? cheap trick? or functional?

Gabriele; any hints or comments?

Update;  set -o pipefail  needs to be set in the forked shell to 
get proper pipeline status.
...
insert head calls {set -o pipefail ; }
append calls { ; echo -n $? >&2}
...

{ ; echo -ne "\n$?" >&2}  works better...when you test with commands 
that don't fail or fail without stderr  :)  gotta love being not-quite-right 
all the time.

it is an acceptable workaround in most cases i guess.

Henrik;  Remember a while back you got a  Killed  message?  I just 
got one, and here is a snippet from the kernel log.
       1 dev kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200d2, order=0
...addresses and other cracker info removed...

       1 dev kernel: Out of Memory: Kill process 6448 (bash) score 95256 
       and children.
       1 dev kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 6469 (orebol).

I'm guessing you had the same scenario.

btiffin, ok. I can hardly remember it now :-)

http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=18304&offset=0&threshold=&msg=8#257159


I love the "I wonder..." thread. It says a lot about Linux development.

Yeah. For the record, we in the Syllable project don't think this 
means much. It's a small addition to the Linux kernel that can't 
be used for much

http://apcmag.com/6735/interview_con_kolivas<--- interesting interview 
with a guy who recently quit linux kernel development. Amiga is mentioned.

Yes, an interesting read. I didn't know, things were that bad.

as a Linux newbie, I can attest that Linux for the user is bloated.To 
get more people to use Linux,they need to put the stuff that Joe 
Sixpack wants

Linux has been there for so many years, so I don't see that happen 
in the future. Some of the code might be emigrated to other OSs with 
other designs, but then it isn't Linux anymore. As I see it, Linux 
as a desktop OS is a dead end.

I think the main thing that a lot of linux developers won't see, 
is that in the long run an "evolution" approach to development (code 
something and see if it'll float or sink), doesn't work as well as 
the "intelligent design" approach. I could see that in a discussion 
recently on OSNews.

I'm seeing Linux kernel development as this big mountain of clay 
and 100s of people are throwing pieces of clay on it to make it bigger. 
:-)

if the clay sticks, it's good code.

Funny, I was thinking of the "evolution" approach also, when I read 
the article. I agree, the "evolution" approach is a bad idea, when 
dealing with computing code. "Keep it simple!" is what they often 
forget.

the thing is, one thing is to do it generally, because you don't 
have the energy for design, but another thing is to actually defend 
it as a good development method. that is why I think also that Linux 
as a desktop won't move forward. Perhaps now the best parts of Linux 
is actually what came out in the beginning, with the original GNU 
tools and not new tools being developed today.

I'm of a different opinion.  GNU/Linux will make it to the desktop. 
 It IS my desktop.  Vista is buried under the GRUB and that's were 
it stays.  Buried.  Many many people are working on the Desktop issues 
right now....like right now...3:15pm eastern standard time.  Con's 
experience may just be a matter of bad-timing.  The first brave front 
runners get cut down, then the masses have a way of getting to the 
goal.  His efforts will not go unnoticed, but he may feel nothing 
but pain and misery for it.  Human nature.

Sounds like Con wrote excellent clay and was thrown out by the cathedral-designers. 
Not the other way around. Seems linux-kernel lost its bazaar-abilities.

BTW a similar scheduler was written by a hig priest and was quickly 
included. quite unfair. and the article is about kernel, not desktop, 
as con mentions in comments

Too many cooks in the kitchen

and the problems interest-problems stem from interest of the developers, 
which are enterprise-driven today.

not according to that article.

rebols have to worry about the same disenfranchisement imho.  Somedays 
it seems the lure of wxPython or Tcl/Tk, or D, or LUA, or even frick'n 
Windows ... would be an easier long term road to get and keep happy 
customers.  That feeling passes with the next little nugget of knowledge 
(and a little stubborness).  REBOL WILL get RIF, REBin, LNS, Rebcode, 
formatted strings and all the cool stuff that seems just around the 
corner.  AND it will all run on Debian GNU/Linux and I'll be able 
to dump Wine for once and for all, and then slowly convince people 
to move away from the darkside.  :)


Can you tell I'm a little s and t of cleaning off people's PC's just 
to watch them click up IE and Outlook and MSN AGAIN.

Volker:  You must also remember that everyone is human - I think 
that's what most people forget.  How he presented his code to the 
developers could easily have been the reason they didn't include 
it.  I haven't seen the kernel mailing list myself, so I can't say 
for sure, but - he said it's a very unfriendly place, and so likely 
positioned himself accordingly, defensively.  He said himself that 
defended his work as much as possible - without budging.  That's 
the kind of person I hate working with, and the kind of person I 
actively ignore.

And, I agree with btiffin - the Linux desktop is getting there, slowly 
but surely.  Especially Ubuntu, which my *mom* wants me to install 
when she gets her laptop, after having checked out mine a couple 
of times.  I only use Windows for video games that don't run well 
under WINE.