World: r3wp

@  Reichart : We were discussing in the OPEN GL group about the default 
way AltMe permits to enter text - and we were 3 that think the default 
way to enter text would be the EDIT mode (the one that accepts Line 
feeds without submitting the post automatically. 


Would you be considering this option in a future release - even if 
I now realize that this is a global switch since when I submits new 
posts this mode is kept alive.


I didn't ask for others to vote for this change but you can do it 
if you want - I find it  really annopying - more than the obligation 
to commit messages by having to use the mouse each time. I know it's 
a productivity consideration but as I can't reedit my sent posts, 
sometimes they didn't look good - until I asked someone how to enter 
LFs.

Thanks a lot for considering this request. 
Regards, Gerard

Is Reichart still involved in AltME development?

I think not. IIRC Altme is RT's responsibility ....

Gerard, I'm not invovled in AltME anymore.... 

I like your idea, and I wish AltME was open source (which I have 
pushed hard for).

yes an open source altme would be GREAT !!  imagine how powerfull 
it would be now.  we could all have our own clients which simply 
adhere to the server specs.

I've even asked carl to take up dev for him (for free) a few times 
(throughout the years), but he never replies.

well, the alternative is to build a functionally identical clone 
and post all sources on github. I'm sure there are a couple in here, 
who could take a stab at it.

its just a pity that all the server stuff is sorted out and works 
pretty much

I'm not sure if it's in the server part, but the file sharing is 
kind of weak. I don't know what Carl's plan for Altissimo would be, 
but I can imagine it would be a departure from how AltME works. All 
I really would like to see, is an open source clone of AltME, primarily 
because it's the best messaging/collaboration system, I've ever used.

using the R3 data exchange format is probably even better. it supports 
just about everything we need.

so, what should the name be... AltAltME? :-)

And we can build it on top of 0MQ.

What data exchange format are you talking about Max?

the message protocol from the R3 dev chat.

The thing is, it doesn't scale. Way to slow for big groups. IMO it 
must handle 100.000 posts with instant realtime search and filterting.

Robert, what does this?

So google stole the altme idea put it on steroids and called it google 
plus!

Google Plus does not resemble AltME at all to me.

in function: Cirlcles = private groups, Uploads=shared files,  Huddle=basic 
idea of altme-multi person chat,

Reichart, don't get your question...

Robert, I think, Reichart mean, what 'it' is? In the sentence "The 
thing is, it doesn't scale."

Well, it's the AltMe group hence the "it" = AltMe.

I uderstand it, that Reichard wanna know, what is able to "handle 
100.000 posts with instant realtime search and filterting."

The stock Apple Mail program for example, or the Opera mailer... 
even google is near real-time for searching now.

179,000+ posts and real time search:
   http://www.rebol.org/aga-index.r

Yes, should go into AltMe. And much, much faster display of large 
groups, without message limit. Virtual tables is the trick...

another perhaps tricky element would be to solve the message limit. 
it seems currently to directly conflict with the memory usage of 
altME, due to the pane size of the message list. so we'd need an 
endlessly scrollable message list with variable height rows.

conflict with
 => "affect"

Robert, Reichart's question as I interpreted it: is there any product 
out there that does this?

altme 1.2.25 is invisible in the application circling in gnome3 (alt+ 
tab) and font are very small ...

there is a font option in the message writing area, it makes the 
font a bit bigger

yeah even with it my eyes are on fire because it's too small ... 
and when my eyes hurts I'm not in a good mood for anything less reading 
tons of pages of those tiny fonts texts

main problem is that  the fonts in R2 scale isn't accurate ... we 
discussed it or at least try to when we  writed area-tc and all we 
had as reply is don´t worry r3 is so much better and that was 2 years 
ago ...

so to be direct in rebol fonts a size of 14 = a size of 8 in another 
font system

so for altme I have the choice betwin a size of 6 or a size of 8 
:)

this is not a young topic I think like 6 years ago I made that request 
too ... cause yet it's a pain for me to read this ...

I have thought up a new feature for AltME. It's called "terms of 
use" for a world. AFAIK we don't have any specific terms.

yeah and who will implement you dictator wish henrik to hide your 
lack of result and your lack of balls to talk to me ?

Terms of use:

Section 1: Personal attacks.

you made me banned from that fake rebol school  group you are so 
proud of but the truth is henrik tha recent  rebol project submited 
to rtebol.org are just toys far from a cheyene!

How do I change my username?

Send a message to Sunanda.

Thanks, very modern approach ;p

well, better than stone tablets. :-)

You could send me a message as well.

It really irks me that I can't use AltME on my phone. My internet 
landline has been iffy lately, but if I have problems with my phone 
connection I can just walk somewhere else.

You going to blame Carl ??

Nope, I don't do blame.

And I don't have the time to write one myself :(

Just speaks to standards ...

File sharing bug: Initial comment can only be 100 chars long. Subsequent 
edits can be longer than 100 chars.