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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4318]
Carl, did you see the discussion with YueM? A new user who won't 
use AltME, because he claims it's broken, when in fact it's simply 
downloading all messages, which takes time and he can't post in the 
meantime. To him, the program appears unstable. An intended feature, 
I know, but maybe there could be done something to allow bulk downloading 
on first connect to a world.
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4319x4]
Yes, it presents an interesting problem... to enter a large world 
like this with so many prior messages.
I've been thinking about this problem for R3 Chat, and I have a solution 
that I think would work well.  It's essentially the same idea as 
virtual memory, where older messages are not loaded until the user 
asks to read them.
Interesting, I just tried changing message groups while my message 
was pending (gray).
So -- it causes the msg to remain gray, and does not get cleared. 
 But, it can be edited and resent.
Sunanda
19-Jan-2010
[4323]
It'sa known problem :) [though it should read ... stays gray untl 
you send again]
http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp151x4293
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4324]
Time on this is distracting from R3!
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4325]
Well... whatever pays the bills, no?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4326]
Does Altme earn income??
Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4327]
I think it's worth half a day's work to get some fixes done for things 
that have been problematic for a few years now.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4328]
How about marking groups read on the starting of a new instance?
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4329]
New instance of what?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4330x2]
Or a separate utility ...
new installation of Altme is the only time you really want the group 
color reset ..
Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4332]
I think that's too specfic. I'd rather have a manual procedure using 
a button. People are used to that from their mail clients.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4333]
Ok, logical place is in settings ..
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4334]
I like that idea. Such a change can happen very soon, and there's 
room to offer a couple options.
Pekr
19-Jan-2010
[4335]
I experience some troubles with AltME now ... it disconnects me from 
the world after not being logged-in for more than 1 minute ...
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4336x2]
Nothing in that part of the code has changed.
Does it happen in all worlds or just this one on the cloud?
Pekr
19-Jan-2010
[4338]
it is stable now ... it happened some 20 minutes ago ..
Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4339]
Pekr, there is a new update 1.2.20. Did you get it?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4340x3]
It's not automatic?
logging off and on again ...
where 1.2.20 ?
Alan
19-Jan-2010
[4343]
1.1.29 here on Linux ?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4344]
19 ?
Terry
19-Jan-2010
[4345x2]
Terry: can you explain 
duplicated itself"? Do you mean it was sent twice?"


I posted a message to a group, and it just stayed grey (yet posted)

I then moved to another group, and it posted it there too, and turned 
white.
I didn't hit the button twice.
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4347]
1.2.21 - fixes black edit box, adds Mark all to the divider toolbar 
options (the small wrench above scroll bar)
Cyphre
19-Jan-2010
[4348]
Carl, maybe you could add an option to store the read/unread flag 
for each group on server? This way when user logs in from different 
machine the state of groups which were marked read previously will 
be in sync.
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4349]
Yes, I want that too. One step at a time. ;)
Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4350]
That's a button I've been waiting 6 years to click. Wonderful. :-)
Cyphre
19-Jan-2010
[4351]
yup, just quick idea while reading this group. It's great Altme updated 
again.
Will
19-Jan-2010
[4352]
osx10.6.2/intel it says "A change has occurred that requires you 
to download a newer version of the software. Download it now?" than 
it says this file is not found http://www.altme.com/download/altme025
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4353]
OS X version not updated for quite a long time.  Let's jump forward 
with it and make it a 2.7.7 based build.   However, things are generally 
crazy today... even the weather... a powerful Pacific storm from 
here all the way to L.A. (1000km to the south).  Knocked out Reichart's 
power, it seems.
Henrik
19-Jan-2010
[4354]
one of the downsides of the OSX version is the problems with clipboard, 
but they are general for OSX REBOL/View
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4355x2]
Got into an update loop ... started up in 1.2.21 and then it asked 
if I wanted to update again .. downloaded 1.2.21 again and asked 
the same. I demurred at this point.
black edit box is stil there if shift focus
Andreas
19-Jan-2010
[4357]
Two things:

1. The REBOL3 AltME world seems to be horribly slow at the moment. 
Is that only me, or do others observe that as well? From pressing 
send the message area is regularly grayed for several seconds.

2. I find this graying out of the message area to be highly annoying. 
Being able to type the next message while the last one is sent is 
very valuable to me.
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4358]
Right after posting that msg above, we lost power.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4359]
Storms?
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4360]
Yes. Graham... try this: in your altme dir, remove mods/ directory. 
Then restart it.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4361]
ok ..
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4362]
Andreas: how long has it been slow for you?  Where are you located? 
We moved the server from Canada to Texas a few days ago.
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4363]
Curious ... I went to 1.2.11 (!) and then updated to 1.2.21 ...
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4364]
What OS?
Graham
19-Jan-2010
[4365]
Windows 7 Pro
Andreas
19-Jan-2010
[4366]
Slow only since the graying of the message area started. So I guess 
that's since today.
Carl
19-Jan-2010
[4367]
That's quite interesting.