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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4191x2]
Maybe the bug is that the server does not apply the recent patches.
Download 1.2.18, and try again.  This will tell us.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4193]
website shows 1.2.15, is that correct?
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4194x2]
Try it.
brb
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4196x2]
the same .exe size. The same version, the same behaviour, no logging 
...
start 29-Dec-2009/1:25:05+1:00 ["vertuzo" 5401 1.2.13 29-Dec-2009/1:25:05+1:00]
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4198x2]
checking...
Let me upload a .18 version for you to try.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4200]
ok ....
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4201x2]
www.altme.com/download/altme-18beta.exe
stop all altme and servers, then install that new one.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4203x2]
start 29-Dec-2009/1:36:39+1:00 ["vertuzo" 5401 1.2.18 29-Dec-2009/1:36:39+1:00]
still no detailed debug info ...
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4205]
verify that log.txt is from altme/servers/vertuzo
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4206x4]
yes, the same location as debug file itself ...
I will delete the log
still the same:

halt 29-Dec-2009/1:40:49+1:00 ["halted"]

start 29-Dec-2009/1:40:54+1:00 ["vertuzo" 5401 1.2.18 29-Dec-2009/1:40:54+1:00]
at least the version number is now 18
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4210x2]
yes... but I am concerned because I started a new world here to confirm 
the debug settings, and it worked.
what shows in the vertuzo/debug file?
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4212]
above content, only two lines - I deled it ....
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4213]
also, how do you start the world?  (from an AltME or from an icon?)
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4214x2]
debub file:

; AltME Debugging and Logging Options
debug: 0
file: %log.txt
events: [boot error note start halt wns wns-ping]
echo: none
net: none
time: none
I start it from Total Commander, running altme-vertuzo.cmd:

start altme.exe -s "Vertuzo" -p 5401
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4216]
try starting it from the altme "Start a World" panel
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4217]
start 29-Dec-2009/1:49:19+1:00 ["vertuzo" 5401 1.2.18 29-Dec-2009/1:49:19+1:00]
wns 29-Dec-2009/1:49:19+1:00 ["open" "vertuzo" 5401]
wns 29-Dec-2009/1:49:20+1:00 ["close" "vertuzo" lookup ok]
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4218]
ping success!

command 28-Dec-2009/16:49:20-8:00 [193.85.151.2 {cmd: open data: 
["vertuzo" 0]}]

command 28-Dec-2009/16:50:27-8:00 [193.85.151.2 {cmd: live data: 
["vertuzo" 64#{kDj
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4219x2]
hmm ....
so should I not start it via "start"? That sounds strange ... will 
turn the world off, and once again with old method ...
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4221]
I think this was designed to sell AltServe products.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4222]
designed
? :-)
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4223]
Safeworlds did not want to see people using or reselling AltME free 
product as a server. So, it does not initialize properly when used 
that way.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4224]
ok, I restarted it "the old way". I wanted to have it in .cmd, to 
auto-start servers, when machine reboots ...
Graham
28-Dec-2009
[4225x2]
It's a feature .. not a bug
LOL
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4227]
Yes.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4228]
yes, but it contradicts docs.
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4229]
I think the docs indicate script startup of free clients, not "free" 
servers.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4230]
Docs state, that world, if not used for 10 days, is freed. But it 
is not the case. The world is randomly freed even during its usage. 
The service is unreliable this way ...
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4231x2]
Ok, I will bring up this problem and it can be discussed.
I think the big problem is that for users it creates a mystery problem, 
that just looks bad.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4233x2]
You must start your world at least every 10 days (or keep it running 
all the time), or you will lose your world name. If that happens, 
nobody will be able to connect to your world, and someone else can 
take your world name. You can keep your world safe for a small fee.
hmm, so now I understand it. I have to restart world at least once 
in 10 days, or it might loose registration? But my condition of "keep 
it running all the time" is met.
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4235]
Yes, and that statement is true -- when world is started from AltME 
control panel.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4236]
The question now is, why doesn't it "ping", when started from .cmd
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4237]
Ah... I know.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4238]
oh my ... what a logic. If I knew it, I would either buy world names, 
or just run it the manual way. It surely was not obvious to me, but 
imo is not obvious to most users too ...
Carl
28-Dec-2009
[4239]
When running AltME with -s, it runs like AltServe.... which never 
has to ping, because all AltServe worlds have permanently registered 
names.
Pekr
28-Dec-2009
[4240]
I think that then docs should be corrected - few sentences would 
explain it clearly enough ...