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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Brock
14-May-2009
[3440x2]
Has anyone built a script to do calendar email notifications from 
the AltME calendar?
One feature that would make this tool that much better.
Graham
15-May-2009
[3442]
Is it just me .. but i'm getting disconnected frequently from this 
world ... nothing to do with Google's woes I hope!
Steeve
15-May-2009
[3443x3]
have the same problem actually
probaly we summoned the devil's spirit in Carl by babling too much
Ooooo Great Carl, please calm down your furry
Maxim
15-May-2009
[3446x2]
no its wolfram alpha succing up all of the internet !!!!   ;-)
that would be... sucking up ... hehe
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3448]
It was very difficult to add a couple people to a private group for 
many UI reasons, the worst of which is that the names weren't sorted.
PeterWood
17-May-2009
[3449]
The names are sorted - just in chronological order of joining.
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3450x2]
Helpful!
Problems with the scroll bar and a lack of scroll wheel support also 
made it difficult.
PeterWood
17-May-2009
[3452x2]
You can at least start looking from the top of the list if you know 
they've been around a long time or the bottom if they're new :-)
It wouldn't hurt if some other the very long list of people who haven't 
logged in for over a year had their accounts deleted.
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3454]
No, when we delete accounts their name turns to none here, and we 
lose the track of conversations. As it is we have a green none (Reichart's 
old account I think) and a powder blue none (Paul). More would be 
even more confusing.
PeterWood
17-May-2009
[3455]
I don't htink that you'd see any more nones if you deleted the accounts 
of people who haven't visited in more than a year.
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3456]
Yeah you would, in old messages. I was looking bacck the other day 
and saw messages going back more than 3 years.
PeterWood
17-May-2009
[3457]
The AltME archive at REBOL.org doesn't change the name of the poster 
when their account is deleted.
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3458x2]
Some of us use AltMe to read AltMe messages, not REBOL.org.
Does the AltME archive at REBOL.org include private and non-web-public 
groups?
Sunanda
17-May-2009
[3460]
No.....It's only the [web-public] ones.

But (confusingly!) there could be a [web-public] private group.....That'd 
be one that a select few could post to, but anyone could web-read.
Graham
17-May-2009
[3461x3]
Yes, it's extremely painful ... Carl should add the ability to sort 
on the names.
It took me close to 5 mins to find BrianH's name to add him to the 
new ~Political group.
And he wasn't close to the top where I expected him to be.
BrianH
17-May-2009
[3464]
I didn't get invited here until late.
kcollins
18-May-2009
[3465]
You can sort on "Activity" date/time, which should make active users 
a bit easier to find.
Graham
18-May-2009
[3466]
we're talking about in the add user to group dialog
Sunanda
18-May-2009
[3467x3]
Experimental goodie asked for by Graham.....Ability to execute code 
included in posts in this world.
eg to execute this script:
   http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp210x509
Do this in a console:
  do http://www.rebol.org/aga-do-post.r?post=r3wp210x509
Of course there are some limitations:
 1. if a post does not have a
    rebol []

    to identify the start of the code, we may fail in executing text
 2. ditto if there is text after the script
 3. assumed to be ascii file (not UTF-8 etc) right now
 4. post may take 12 to 18 hours to appear on REBOL.org archive
For those who can't properly read the above posts (View+AltME sometimes 
makes a mess of posts with multiple URLs):
    http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp151x3467
Graham
18-May-2009
[3470]
I was thinking it might be useful to view someone's view script ... 
easier to see the visuals this way since we can't include images 
in posts.
RobertS
22-May-2009
[3471x2]
i just moved to the latest beta altme for debian linux x86 - even 
if I go off-line and come back it reports that session synced but 
most groups in rebol3 are empty; my R2-Beta world appears fully populated. 
 I bumped the chat limit up to 10000 (10k) but nothing appears to 
have been added ... grops that had new contents on my old OS ( i 
moved up to Ubuntu 9.0.4 ) even yesterday now sit empty ... am I 
bumping into a known issue?
and and my user mail is empty -
Sunanda
22-May-2009
[3473x2]
The sync bug is a very old one.
Possible partial solutions:

-- leave world running for  a long time....some groups then resync 
if a message is posted to them

-- change your message limit, and then do a search for a fairly common 
word

-- send a message (just a dot is the convention) to every group you 
want to resync
-- delete all messages and restart the world.


http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?offset=-1&post=r3wp151x920
Another possible solution (usually does not work):
--  send a message to yourself.
RobertS
22-May-2009
[3475x2]
post hoc ergo propter hoc    a mail to me and now I have my mail
. nets the messages   thanks
Sunanda
22-May-2009
[3477]
(I send RobertS a private message, and it seems to have triggered 
some resyncing.....So another partial solution).
RobertS
22-May-2009
[3478]
search on common rebol words seems to indicate that groups are creeping 
in ever so slowly
Maxim
22-May-2009
[3479x2]
for me its always delete and start over, with the detail that you 
must let it complete everything before touching or posting.
but you need a fast connection or else the timeouts occur and when 
that happens, nothings syncs anymore.
Graham
22-May-2009
[3481]
Can people stop putting "." into groups to sync ... it's very annoying. 
 It turns groups red for us.
Sunanda
22-May-2009
[3482]
Sadly, it is sometimes the only way to trigger a proper sync of that 
group.

It can be annoying, true......But while the resync bug exists, there 
is no other guaranteed work around.
Graham
22-May-2009
[3483x2]
I suggest that they check on the web to see what's in web public 
groups instead
don't pollute all the groups with "."
Dockimbel
22-May-2009
[3485]
I guess that  reinstalling AltMe and making a full sync would work. 
That way you don't have to spam-dot groups for others.
Maxim
22-May-2009
[3486]
graham... did you wake up in a bad mood?
is it such a big endeavor to click on a few links ?
Graham
22-May-2009
[3487x3]
Forvevery "." that someone puts here, it forces every other active 
person .. maybe 30 people ... to click on that group to clear the 
red.
I'm always grouchy when software design flaws make me do unnecessary 
work
Dissatisfaction is the driving force behind innovation ... so if 
you complain about me, you're complaining about the driving force 
behind creativity and invention.