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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

amacleod
19-Jan-2009
[3115]
I got it to work on a different port.

On windows you do not seem to need to declare the port like on linux.
Windows opens multiple worlds from the gui
Brock
19-Jan-2009
[3116x2]
Just beware, if you open the worlds in a different order, they will 
use the first available port, so for example if the first world you 
created isn't running, and you start the second world you created, 
the second world will look for the first port, however, the world 
server knows it should have been assigned to the second port.  (excuse 
me not using the port numbers to avoid confusion, but I couldn't 
recall if the first port was 5000, or 5500).  If the server isn't 
using the port is was created on, it won't be recognized by the world 
server.
IN short, order matters, and your servers won't open if they don't 
open with the right port being available.
amacleod
20-Jan-2009
[3118x2]
I going to be serving on a linux box and it seems you can just assign 
the port at start up.
altme -s "world name" -p 5401
Now trying to autostart at boot time but having a trouble...

su -lc '/.../altserve -s world -p port &' user > /dev/null

according ot altme guide
does not seem to launching...

I know the example is for altmeserve but I thought it would work 
for client as well
Brock
20-Jan-2009
[3120]
sorry, my issue was with re-creating a world.  I had multiple worlds 
hosted on the same machine at one time and I cheaped out and didn't 
register the world for $10 US per world.  When the worlds expired 
after 10 days of no usage (which never happened, but they expried 
anyway), I had to recreate the worlds, the order was important in 
that scenario.  Sorry for misleading you.
amacleod
21-Jan-2009
[3121x2]
Is there a known problem changing server types for a world going 
from a linux box to a windows box?

I moved a world from linux to windows and I'm getting this error: 
	AltME Error: Registry: cannot load dataset files: 2
Never mind. The data files are empty. Must have lost data when I 
loaded it to my flash drive. Try again.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3123]
Graham needs a prize for being AltME's top public poster since AltME 
REBOL world has been in existence!


See http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-stats.r?world=r3wp&year=2005
thru to year 2008!
Sunanda
22-Jan-2009
[3124]
Nice going! -- though you are off to a slow start for 2009: not yet 
on the Prolific posters leader board:
http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-stats.r?world=r3wp&year=2009
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3125]
I'm retiring!
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[3126]
Very impressive.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3127x2]
Graham used to be near the top in the mailing list too!
http://www.mail-archive.com/[rebol-list-:-rebol-:-com]/msg05409.html
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[3129x2]
uh, when did you start talking about yourself im ht ethird person?
in the
Sunanda
22-Jan-2009
[3131]
Graham, one of your email addresses comes 7th in the top ML posters 
(page required login to see):
  http://www.rebol.org/ml-author-ranking.r
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3132]
Graham sometimes likes to talk about himself in the 3rd person.
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[3133]
I was simply worried there were now two of you... although watching 
you both compete directly would be........damned funny...
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3134x2]
Graham thought he would adopt a new years resolution, create an online 
persona that is nice to qtask and altme.
sadly 5 of the 12 top posters are not known now to be Rebol users
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[3136]
I'm all for split personalities...
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[3137]
is it just me, or my persona, that has found Altme inaccessible a 
few times today ?
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[3138]
Possible, if you think it happened, it is as good as having happened. 
 But one could also say....

- A router went down
- Bandwidth was limited between NZ and the world.
- The software gremlins don't like you, or you, or the other you.
Graham
23-Jan-2009
[3139x2]
Since my international web access was fine, I have to pick 3.
I think I'll fade into the background again.
DideC
23-Jan-2009
[3141x2]
Well almost your name color fade well in the yellow of unread message 
:-)
I used to prefer the green Graham ;-)
Graham
23-Jan-2009
[3143]
Happened again ... got message unable to connect to network.  Rebol.net 
was up but curiously, rebol.com was also inaccessible.
Sunanda
23-Jan-2009
[3144]
I've had some flakey connectivity to rebol.net, and this world too.
Graham
23-Jan-2009
[3145]
I am guessing these worlds are no longer hosted on the same PC as 
rebol.net now?
Sunanda
23-Jan-2009
[3146x2]
This world seems to be on the same IP as rebol.net:
 read dns://www.rebol.net
== 209.167.34.213
Which is the same number as "check your world" for REBOL3:
http://www.altme.com/check.html
(Glad to see Graham's green is back)
Graham
23-Jan-2009
[3148]
And rebdev is down now
Reichart
23-Jan-2009
[3149]
- The software gremlins don't like you, or you, or the other you.
Graham
23-Jan-2009
[3150]
And don't like others as well... rebdev was down for them as well
Reichart
23-Jan-2009
[3151]
Ah, you thought the "you" was still y'all.
amacleod
29-Jan-2009
[3152]
IS ther a way to change the permissions to a shared file/folder after 
its been uploaded. I set it up for 'myself' not realizing it would 
not be available on other computeres I signed onto. I should have 
made it abvailable to my user name I guess.
Gregg
30-Jan-2009
[3153]
I think you have to delete and recreate it.
amacleod
1-Feb-2009
[3154]
I've been using Altme for a project with a guy who is very non-tech. 
He did not know how to drag a window. Anyway, it is working out great. 
We are using File sharing to re-format a bunch of text files and 
with the abilty to add comments and check lists its saving a lot 
of time over traditional Email. He is still not really up to speed 
so once he is it wil really shine. And with the abiltty to just add 
new members where they can read any old messages to see where we 
are and what we have been doing.


I regret not using it for my Appraisal business. My partner and I 
had to email files back and forth all the time. And sometimes we 
needed to get files from one another but one of us was away or not 
at our computer. If we used Altme we would never have had that problem.
Pekr
1-Feb-2009
[3155]
Altme is absolutly cool even with its efficiencies. I set-it-up in 
10 minutes for our small team, and the communication is - instant. 
The only problem is the noise - it has IM nature, so you go off-topic 
pretty fast. But other than that, so far, no other web based system 
can compare in speed. Simple AltME DMS is also good for some basic 
stuff. Off-line sync nature is also welcomed sometimes.
amacleod
1-Feb-2009
[3156]
DMS?
Brock
1-Feb-2009
[3157]
Document Management System
Reichart
2-Feb-2009
[3158]
Does any system suppress noise?
What are the best collaborative systems that solve this?



Slash dot is great, but requires large groups to kick in for example.
Gregg
2-Feb-2009
[3159]
ACM has had articles on system using Bayesian, and other spam-fighting, 
techniques to identify off-topic posts. I don't of anything in the 
wild that does it. They usually talk about university research projects.
Reichart
2-Feb-2009
[3160x2]
That is one example Gregg.  But even in regards manual controls.


As best as I can tell the only system I perceive as working is a 
benevolent human dictator or benevolent fascist group (moderators). 
  And most people won't even notice them, a few people will notice 
them and appreciate them, and a very small group of people will dispraise 
them and it could become violent if pulled into the real world.  
And that models the whole thing for me : )


In this world (unrelated to AltME), we have mostly taken the position 
that we can work most things out, or push/pull people into other 
group.  It is not 100%, but as I'm fond of saying, nothing is.


I little patience, tolerance, ignoring, what ever you want to call 
it, goes a long way everywhere...
Dispraise - despise
Graham
2-Feb-2009
[3162x3]
Peer pressure works.
but altme lacks a way of allowing the community to censure a recidivist
how about this ... each person has a starting level of karma/reputation 
or whatever.  As they post, others rate their posts and add to their 
karma.